Jule Amps Monique part 5

[Baird6869]

I don't even come in here anymore. No point.

My Monique(s) have been perfect for years. So reliable, so tonally perfect and... looks DAMNED cool!

I have yet to find a band I have played in (or any bassist that has heard me) that hasn't loved my Monique/Berg tone.

Jule killed my amp gas years ago.

Anyone on the fence? Just do it.

 

[peterpalmieri]

I have a gig coming up where there is a house amp Hartke LH1000 and 1x15 Hydrive. Anyone have experience running Monique into this combo? Wondering if I should bring the M700, my cabs or pray Mo plays nicely with their stuff...

 

[Dave W]

I have a gig coming up where there is a house amp Hartke LH1000 and 1x15 Hydrive. Anyone have experience running Monique into this combo? Wondering if I should bring the M700, my cabs or pray Mo plays nicely with their stuff...

I'd just bring the M700. I didn't have good luck running the FX Return on anything.

 

[MarkA]

The Monique Tardis was a rounder and smoother tone, with less rumble and less grind (I had the "Fat" selector engaged on the SA200 in an effort to cut through), and just ... easier to hear. More clarity. Which made it easier to play.

I liked the SA200 tone maybe a little better when I was alone in the mix, say on an intro to a song. But the rest of the time -- when the band kicked in -- I couldn't hear myself. Kind of like when you hear a bass intro to a song on the radio: by itself, the bass sounds monstrous, and then the mix fills up and you don't hear it anymore. With Monique, I can hear myself through the mix, and it's a very ... faithful tone, without feeling boosted or sculpted anywhere. It's big, honest, transient, clear and pure.

This stuff is hard to describe. I only posted above because I wanted to show that Monique keeps very, very good company.

Nice observations, even if about things that are hard to describe. Thanks for sharing them.

I've never even seen an SA200 in real life, let alone heard or played through one. Have you ever tried running Mo' through the Berg cabs and the Sad through the MAS 66/110? Curious if your observations remain(ed) similar, if so.

 

[peterpalmieri]

The Monique Tardis was a rounder and smoother tone, with less rumble and less grind (I had the "Fat" selector engaged on the SA200 in an effort to cut through), and just ... easier to hear. More clarity. Which made it easier to play.

I liked the SA200 tone maybe a little better when I was alone in the mix, say on an intro to a song. But the rest of the time -- when the band kicked in -- I couldn't hear myself. Kind of like when you hear a bass intro to a song on the radio: by itself, the bass sounds monstrous, and then the mix fills up and you don't hear it anymore. With Monique, I can hear myself through the mix, and it's a very ... faithful tone, without feeling boosted or sculpted anywhere. It's big, honest, transient, clear and pure.

This stuff is hard to describe. I only posted above because I wanted to show that Monique keeps very, very good company.

One of things I've grown to hate is the low end rumble. I think it's partially that it hurts my damaged ears, the fact that you lose a lot of highs when you wear ear plugs and it muddies up the stage especially with keys in the monitor and a kick in the house subs.

The DI in Mo has a little more of that then the line output it sounds like. Which is good the audience wants the bass to fill the room. Myself and other musicians on stage not so much it becomes a fog.

 

[kjones]

Nice observations, even if about things that are hard to describe. Thanks for sharing them.

I've never even seen an SA200 in real life, let alone heard or played through one. Have you ever tried running Mo' through the Berg cabs and the Sad through the MAS 66/110? Curious if your observations remain(ed) similar, if so.

Close to MD my friend? You're welcome to come play mine.

 

[HawgDriver]

Showed up to a rehearsal without Mo' and thought a riot was about to ensue...not that I have an inferiority complex or anything, but do they want me or Monique? Whatever it takes, I had Monique next time.

 

[MarkA]

Close to MD my friend? You're welcome to come play mine.

Thank you! A very kind offer. I'm not in a (geographical) position to take advantage of it, unfortunately.

 

[Snackulus]

Does anyone know why the rack mount Monique 700 isn't offered in the lighter aluminum housing? I thought I read a post about this a while back, but can't seem to locate it in the thread.

 

[HawgDriver]

Does anyone know why the rack mount Monique 700 isn't offered in the lighter aluminum housing? I thought I read a post about this a while back, but can't seem to locate it in the thread.

I believe Jule mentioned that the additional weight of the 700 amp needed more support and thus a more beefy chassis.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Does anyone know why the rack mount Monique 700 isn't offered in the lighter aluminum housing? I thought I read a post about this a while back, but can't seem to locate it in the thread.

If I remember correctly the box sitting on a table top doesn't need as much reinforcement as one that will be bolted to a rack.

 

[Snackulus]

If I remember correctly the box sitting on a table top doesn't need as much reinforcement as one that will be bolted to a rack.

Ah, that makes sense, thanks!

 

[peterpalmieri]

Just browsed the classifieds there are two dovecag's and a minnie 800 out there.....

 

[Dave W]

Yup. I saw that.

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[peterpalmieri]

I absolutely love my M700. I've got a super versatile rig. I bring the DC to my ampless church gig regularly. I do a number of studio rehearsals and gigs with backlines, I l leave the M700 in the car see if I can get Mo to agree with the power amp in or instrument input of the house amp, if not I just use their cab and the M700. My Ampeg 210Avs are great, one works better than any small practice amp and two get me pretty far. A couple gigs are upstairs or in a basement so the schlep is important.

So I've got all my bases covered, the downside is I'm accumulating a bunch of small stuff to carry; I do wish I had the integrated racked Monique 700 rather then the dovecage and M700 when I'm carrying a pedal board, or a second bass or a music stand and books. But what the heck the DC sure is pretty.

 

[peterpalmieri]

Mids and highs cranked, bass off, sensitivity pulled out at 2 o'clock. Unbelievable overdriven tone. You can back off the highs too. Line level pulled

It's all so interactive, to me it's not what you'd expect from those settings.

 

[Ric Vice]

Just got done refinishing this cab in duratex and 70s grill cloth. To keep it real I actually prefer the V4b with this cab and my Pj5 with flats. Think I may look to pick up a mid sized ported cab for Mo. But no doubt it still sounds really good.
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The Audiokinesis TC-112 is a good match.

 

[peterpalmieri]

The Audiokinesis TC-112 is a good match.

It sounds great with my 210avs, my only concern is max levels with that combo. I've got a pretty decent size place we are playing Saturday and should provide me enough info if I need something between the pair of 210s and the 810.

 

[ahc]

Can anyone who's had experience with both Jule's M700 and the Demeter Minnie 800D give me your thoughts on a comparison/contrast? I'm thinking it's safe to ask this here since Jule used both units. If and when I decide to expell GAS, it'll probably be on something used. I haven't decided on which preamp I want either. Monique is high on the list as is the Noble. I need some Beano!

 

[maisbass]

Can anyone who's had experience with both Jule's M700 and the Demeter Minnie 800D give me your thoughts on a comparison/contrast? I'm thinking it's safe to ask this here since Jule used both units. If and when I decide to expell GAS, it'll probably be on something used. I haven't decided on which preamp I want either. Monique is high on the list as is the Noble. I need some Beano!

I had both. Both sound great in their own way.

M700- much quicker response, more detailed throughout the tonal spectrum, especially in the high end. The volume pot has a more gradual increase in volume, not front loaded like the Minnie.

Minnie- less mid detail (more scooped) than the m700, and a bit darker up top than the m700.

I preferred the m700 over the Minnie, but honestly both are fantastic amps.