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Jule Amps Monique part 5
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Actually, I run mine into the effects return of the amp.. This way I'm just using the tone controls of the Monique and a few things such as a bright switch or punch when needed... I love it !!
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Probably not an absolute answer to the Input/Effects Return question.
I suspect I'm not the only builder thinking their preamp front end design and implementation is the best possible.
Going into an "Input" jack means that my "best possible" design is now added to the "best possible" design of somebody else. Not all of us play well with others.
Going in via the "Effects Return" usually (not always) bypasses/eliminates the preamp front end of that original designer.
Happy Halloween y'all.
I have had situations depending on the amp that the instrument input work better then the power amp in or effects return. Either one isn’t going to hurt give both a try if you can and use your ears.
In particular my acoustic image worked great on the instrument input but to Jules point a more voiced preamp may not work as well.
In particular my acoustic image worked great on the instrument input but to Jules point a more voiced preamp may not work as well.
Hello All,
I scoured the thread for a question or two and I did not see them, so forgive me if these questions are posted here somewhere.
Questions: What are the dimensions of the Rack Mount Monique? and Is the Rack Mount Monique available as a desktop version (with rubber feet)?
Many thanks for answers.
Best,
BN5
I scoured the thread for a question or two and I did not see them, so forgive me if these questions are posted here somewhere.
Questions: What are the dimensions of the Rack Mount Monique? and Is the Rack Mount Monique available as a desktop version (with rubber feet)?
Many thanks for answers.
Best,
BN5
I can't help with the rack mount dimensions but it's probably on the Jule Amps website. There is a "table top" version of Monique and also a Monique with the M700 amp that's known as the "Tardis". Also on the website.
@BN5HardCaseGuy
The rack version is two rack spaces. I measured mine "in rack" to the best of my ability...measurements in inches.
Front Panel is 3 1/2 x 19.
Chassis is 3 1/2 x 17 1/4
Depth is 11 3/16.
Switches, vents, and jacks protrude out of the back panel by approximately 3/8 to 1/2.
The rack version is two rack spaces. I measured mine "in rack" to the best of my ability...measurements in inches.
Front Panel is 3 1/2 x 19.
Chassis is 3 1/2 x 17 1/4
Depth is 11 3/16.
Switches, vents, and jacks protrude out of the back panel by approximately 3/8 to 1/2.
Ooof, prices just went up a couple hundred or so on the website. On the fence, wish I had ordered a couple of days ago...or I don't know now.
Late in following up...
I am a happy owner of the Monique & M700. They are a magical pair, together they are that "it" tone in many shades.
I am a happy owner of the Monique & M700. They are a magical pair, together they are that "it" tone in many shades.
Jule has commented on various tubes he has rolled in the amp. Apparently it does respond.
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The Monique rectifier tube, the EZ81, is stiffer than it needs to be. It is designed to handle gear a lot bigger than Monique. If you can find a decent EZ80 replacement, (softer, more swing) it is worth trying. The rub is that nobody manufactures them today. Recent experiments here with the Chinese 6Z4 rectifier have been fun. Jury still out. The 6Z4 requires re-wiring.
The Shuguang 6SL7 is still the preferred sound here. Those are the first (fat) tubes on the right. They also go by 6N9P (for the Russian market). They are private labeled for several other brands. Same tube. The metal base of the tube adds additional noise suppression for Monique. If a 6SL7 does not have the silvery metal base it is not the Shuguang 6SL7/6N9P. These can be purchased below $20.
Been a bit weird lately on the Shuguang 6SL7 availability. There were almost none available for about a couple of months, and then they started showing up.
Some 6SL7s are now being manufactured under the PSVANE brand. They are good. They are pretty. They are also more than $100 a piece. Like the TUNG SOL, the PSVANES are good, but I can't justify the extra cost for our purposes. The JJ 6SL7GT is also pretty good, but if the JJ 6SL7 does not have GT at the end of the name, it will not work for us.
The 12AU7 is very stable. I haven't heard of a failed 12AU7 for years. There are some that can sound a bit better, not a whole lot better.
The only spares I have ordered are a pair of Shuguangs 6N9Ps that I bought off AliExpress as domestic supplies seemed depleted. FYI, I have seen some comments that Shuguang is making tubes again...no idea if they will or are producing 6N9P.
I had planned on buying a current production Tung Sol 6SL7GT, a handful of NOS 6SL7GT variants, and a NOS EZ80, but I have sort of lost most of my interest in rolling tubes. My Monique 700 sounds great and is loaded with
- V1 Shuguang 6SL7GT (labeled 6N9P = Chinese 6SL7GT)
- V2 Sovtek 6SL7GT (GT not indicated on tube)
- V3 JJ ECC82
- V4 JJ EZ81/6CA4
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Yup. My difficulty was not so much with the SOVTEK sound reproduction as it was with the physical assembly. Too often, the glass envelope was askew (unsightly), and the gain varied enough to keep me looking. Consistency is important.
Hi guys, I’ve been looking into this preamp and reading the early pages of this thread.
Thinking of canceling my noble order and getting one of these as it sounds more like a true tube sound to my ear in recordings I’ve heard.
A few questions, is there any drives that stack particularly well? I know the main purpose of it is a clean tube sound but I’m curious.
Also compressors, I know it has natural compression built in via the tubes but I’m assuming if you were to run compression in front you would want something more transparent and true bypass.
Thinking of canceling my noble order and getting one of these as it sounds more like a true tube sound to my ear in recordings I’ve heard.
A few questions, is there any drives that stack particularly well? I know the main purpose of it is a clean tube sound but I’m curious.
Also compressors, I know it has natural compression built in via the tubes but I’m assuming if you were to run compression in front you would want something more transparent and true bypass.
Can’t comment on drive, but I’ve used my capo (sort of a drive when set with high gain), and my Monique sounded great. Also, I use an empress mkii compressor with fantastic results. Both the noble and Monique are designed to be clean. Both are fantastic preamps, but ultimately to my ears, Monique sounds better and has more tone sculpting ability. If you don’t need a pedal format, Monique is the way. (Ive owned both)
Thanks for the response, it is helpful. I get what you mean about the capo being sort of a drive as well.
The sensitivity knob seems more useful and fun than any control on the noble.
I have a number of drive pedals, I really like the Katana clean boost. It can help drive Monique into saturation but also has a FET circuit to give its own saturation which is more high mid while clean boosting Mo brings out a bit of the lower mids.
I have a Monique Dovecage, a de-Monique 700 and a Noble. I’m glad I don’t have to choose. They’re both great and a bit different in good ways.
I’m not sure your question about running a compressor ahead of it? Is that to clean it up?
The output of a particular bass is going to determine to some extent how you drive the input. Lower output basses will be cleaner but higher output you can control from the bass by turning down the volume. Also pulling out the line or sensitivity will effect how it’s driven as well as where the sensitivity knob is set. It can also be dependent on EQ settings. It’s a box with endless possibilities IMO.
The cool trick with the Noble is engaging the HPF and boosting the lows to get a bit of that pultec style low end boost but otherwise more straight forward.
