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Las Vegas Shooting
- Thread starter Oddly
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No way was he acting alone in this. Yeah, he got away with it (if death is "getting away with it"), but his co-evil doers aren't going to....
The shooter got away with nothing, and I'll tell you why I think that:
I won't go into "spiritual" reasons like "karma" and the hereafter, etc. that's too esoteric. (Although there may be some validity in all that-who knows for sure?)
But IMO-
The only thing we leave behind is our legacy. How we treated others while here, and what effect our lives had on others, good and bad.
Quite obviously, the legacy of this twisted individual is set in stone- An evil,sick, and tormented person who would not seek help or try and fix what was troubling him, but instead chose to go out taking his own life, but not before destroying the lives of 58 others and their families and loved ones; and also will undoubtedly leave many hundreds who survived with terrible wounds, physical and mental, that will last for the rest of their lives.
Maybe that's how he wanted it- he was certainly that skewed, but nonetheless. He will always be synonymous with one of the worst deeds ever done in the history of man.
That- IMO- is not getting away with it, and I'm not just playing semantics.
One more thing: He seemed to be a man of some wealth, there may be holes in that too, but- I hope that every nickle
and dime he ever accumulated, along with the proceeds from the sale of everything he owns be turned over to a fund for the victims. How about that??
I won't go into "spiritual" reasons like "karma" and the hereafter, etc. that's too esoteric. (Although there may be some validity in all that-who knows for sure?)
But IMO-
The only thing we leave behind is our legacy. How we treated others while here, and what effect our lives had on others, good and bad.
Quite obviously, the legacy of this twisted individual is set in stone- An evil,sick, and tormented person who would not seek help or try and fix what was troubling him, but instead chose to go out taking his own life, but not before destroying the lives of 58 others and their families and loved ones; and also will undoubtedly leave many hundreds who survived with terrible wounds, physical and mental, that will last for the rest of their lives.
Maybe that's how he wanted it- he was certainly that skewed, but nonetheless. He will always be synonymous with one of the worst deeds ever done in the history of man.
That- IMO- is not getting away with it, and I'm not just playing semantics.
One more thing: He seemed to be a man of some wealth, there may be holes in that too, but- I hope that every nickle
and dime he ever accumulated, along with the proceeds from the sale of everything he owns be turned over to a fund for the victims. How about that??
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I have no idea whether he acted alone or not. Personally I think that he did act alone. No conspiracy for me..
It appears his goal was to murder a lot of people. Then take his own life.
Mission accomplished.
If that was his intention, then he succeeded. No one knows what his mind-set was, and we probably never will.
Still, like I said: He "got away" with nothing.
Yes he did. He can never be held accountable and receive any kind of punishment by anyone on this planet. Ever.
So he "got away" with the crime technically.
Obviously his mindset was to amass a huge cache of firepower, then murder as many people as he could in the shortest time possible.
He obviously knew that it wouldn't take long to identify and reach his shooting location.
At the point of apprehension he could have surrendered. But he didn't, choosing to take himself out instead.
Many shooters have done this. The mindset is :- " I'm going to kill myself and a whole bunch of you are going with me."
B-line, I have to be on the side of your opinion (which should frighten you
). There is really nothing that can protect the rest of us from people who become unhinged. I'm not a 'gun nut' but I enjoy shooting them and so do millions of others and most of the folks I know who do have a deep respect both for the damage they can do and for safe handling. I was taught by my father (RIP) that you never even point an unloaded gun at another person. I don't know what gets into people sometimes, I wish I did. Maybe this is why we invent the idea of the superhero. My heart goes out to the families who will have to bear this pain forever. If it isn't a gun it's a knife, or a truck, or bomb, or whatever some unhinged soul decides to do. Anyway, just an idiots two cents. I wish safety for all of us, I wish peace for the survivors and families of this horrific deed.
slobake
resident ... something
To me if he was a coward or got away with anything doesn't seem that important in light of what happened.
The police and the FBI are working hard to find a motive and I get that. The more we can understand about these things and the people that do them the better chance we have of preventing repeats in the future.
Of course, we can discuss how much of a difference it will make. I may or may not I don't know but it is good that we do whatever we can to try and prevent these tragedies.
The police and the FBI are working hard to find a motive and I get that. The more we can understand about these things and the people that do them the better chance we have of preventing repeats in the future.
Of course, we can discuss how much of a difference it will make. I may or may not I don't know but it is good that we do whatever we can to try and prevent these tragedies.
How do you prevent someone like this person that had not so much as a parking ticket, no one was watching or suspecting him of anything up until he rained terror down on innocent people.
this will sound very far fetched and way out in left field but I wonder if there is the possibility he was not in control of his own mind, by which I mean an outside source. Or was he just a complete nut job ?
this will sound very far fetched and way out in left field but I wonder if there is the possibility he was not in control of his own mind, by which I mean an outside source. Or was he just a complete nut job ?
slobake
resident ... something
Can't say that I agree with that.
As we post, he's being held accountable, so guilty as charged.
His punishment is that he will always be remembered and reviled as a callous and insane individual who chose willingly and engineered a way to inflict massive harm and damage on almost 600 innocents, as well as the entire city of Las Vegas, and probably the rest of the World as well.
His suicide saved hundreds of thousands of dollars in trial and incarceration costs, as well as whatever it costs to administer a lethal injection, so at least he did the taxpayers a service by opting out .
slobake
resident ... something
My wife and I finally went to Alcatraz a couple of years ago. There was a guy signing books in the store. He had done time at Alcatraz and had written book about it.
He talked about his time there and his life as a professional bank robber. He would use his time in prison to make connections and plan his next crime when he was released.
He told us he was unrepentant about robbing banks. He said he stopped robbing banks because he was making a living off his book, otherwise he would still be robbing banks. People were treating him like a celebrity. It seemed very strange to me, I thought he was a jerk.
Any method of prevention now is the same as locking the barn after the horses have escaped!
Think about it:
The vendors gladly took his Credit Card for his firearm and ammunition purchases; he passed screenings with flying colors. The man's record was spotless. No doubt they were happy to have made the sales, that's what they do!
Banks probably would have happily lent him more money to buy property, he had a work history, and good financial standing. An upstanding citizen.
The Mandalay Bay gave him the "room with a view" of his choice and welcomed him as a guest.
He was clean as a whistle, until now. I think your premise of "mind control" could be valid, regarding some kind of neurological flaw in his brain. That's a part of the anatomy we know little about, and its said we only actively use a small percentage of our brains as is.
It seems plausible to me that there can be negative activity, signals generated, caused by who-knows-what, that could cause someone to go berserk, and do unspeakable acts.
IDK if there's any forensic autopsy or such planned, as reports of his family and such filter in, it seems that he has a Brother with a criminal record, and to me, his Female companion's role was not one of a strong, supportive, happy couple, that's just an assumption on my part.
Honestly, one result I can foresee-maybe it will never happen, is an "HSA" or Hotel Screening Authority, much like the TSA.
Guests baggage would be X-rayed before allowed up into their rooms.
Sound outlandish? There was a day when passengers could walk right onto their flights, but no more.
We'll see.
slobake
resident ... something
Maybe he was frustrated by what he considered to be half-baked statements, and it drove him off the deep-end?
slobake
resident ... something
But we'll never know, right?
All we can do is keep guessing, and hopefully, not add anything half-baked of our own, eh?
