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Loudest, gnarly'est, cab for $1000?

#41
I think the comments about Greenboy designs cabs being too sterile
or lacking charactor are due to so many cabs having a low mid bump or
a lack of mids that people have come to expect a 'baked in' sound.
That sound is not really a selling point, it's a flaw that seems natural
because we have had to put up with it for so long.
Now that I have 'seen the elephant' (or tasted the kool aid, if you insist)
I prefer to have a good full range response, so I can EQ stuff in or out
as I see fit.
 
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#42
Bill Whitehurst said:
I think the comments about Greenboy designs cabs being too sterile
or lacking charactor are due to so many cabs having a low mid bump or
a lack of mids that people have come to expect a 'baked in' sound.
That sound is not really a selling point, it's a flaw that seems natural
because we have had to put up with it for so long.
Now that I have 'seen the elephant' (or tasted the kool aid, if you insist)
I prefer to have a good full range response, so I can EQ stuff in or out
as I see fit.
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Exactly.
 
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Bill Whitehurst said:
I think the comments about Greenboy designs cabs being too sterile
or lacking charactor are due to so many cabs having a low mid bump or
a lack of mids that people have come to expect a 'baked in' sound.
That sound is not really a selling point, it's a flaw that seems natural
because we have had to put up with it for so long.
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I've never had to put up with anything. If it's a sound that people like and buy, then it isn't a flaw.

Greenboy is a friend, and I think he does amazing stuff and was one of the very first to truly take advantage of what hi-xmax neos could do for bass cabs. But 3-way cabs have been around for a very long time, way longer than the fEarful, and plenty of major manufacturers have tried to get something going with them for bass cabs, and most folks still voluntarily choose your standard issue bass cabs. I first played a 3-way bass system in 1980, and have always managed to plug into them from time to time, and while there were aspects of it I dug, I still ended up preferring my regular old bass cabs overall. For a PA system, it makes sense to me. For bass, I like my cabs. Trust me, there's been no mass hypnosis on an unsuspecting public. You might be new to them but they're not new. The market has had its chance to try 3-way cabs and still chooses your regular bass cabs with a full range woofer and an optional tweeter. Even Greenboy has a couple woofer/tweeter designs now.
 
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#49
CL400Peavey said:
Dr. Jim's post isnt a dissenting opinion. It is a statement of fact that the cabs dont have the low mid bump that some other cabs have baked in. "You need a significant about of eq" to make one cab sound like another, could be applied to any two cabs.

You should ask @Jim Carr what kind of cabs he plays.
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Oh I see. No one's saying that they don't have character in the mids, they're just saying that they don't have a low mid bump.

You sure you're not just looking for a fight?

What exactly is "character" as it applies to tone other than a baked in EQ curve?
 
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#53
IMO, and I stress "my opinion", I feel you should checkout the best cab I ever played and I have used a few....is a SWR Megoliath (810)....FULL range and run with a dual head and split cab is great!....Just another thought.......
 
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trippy- I've played a ton of Ampeg 810s as back lines in all kinds of bands on the road. I actually think I know what "loud" and "deep" is, but I'll submit that's it's all relative. 810s get loud and deep. Good mids too. If it can't get deep enough for the stage I think there are some other issues happening. If 2 can't make it happen whoa....
I say go with an 810 if you can haul it (it's in your budget and a GB isn't). For the price of one GB you can get two 810s (used). No chance a GB 215 trumps 2 810s. Nope. Not happenin'.
 

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