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Loudest, gnarly'est, cab for $1000?
- Thread starter bobostein
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I can't speak to that graph as I've never played it.
I have however owned an 810, and played them all over the place as back lines. They have always gone deep enough for me. I judge gear by gigging it, not by analyzing it on paper. That's just me though.
Still, respectfully disagree that Ampeg 810s don't go deep. Pretty sure about 10,000,000 bass players worldwide would disagree with you as well. Deep is relative.
I'd also throw out that, generally speaking, Ampeg 810s will go deep enough for 90% of all bass players live needs (especially two of them). There may be deeper options, but that's not proof that 810s don't go deep enough. Burning Skies would probably fall into the other 10%. When I saw 311 from backstage my gut was about to blow from Pnuts 2 810s (he had them laying on their sides and stacked). Pretty deep.....
I have however owned an 810, and played them all over the place as back lines. They have always gone deep enough for me. I judge gear by gigging it, not by analyzing it on paper. That's just me though.
Still, respectfully disagree that Ampeg 810s don't go deep. Pretty sure about 10,000,000 bass players worldwide would disagree with you as well. Deep is relative.
I'd also throw out that, generally speaking, Ampeg 810s will go deep enough for 90% of all bass players live needs (especially two of them). There may be deeper options, but that's not proof that 810s don't go deep enough. Burning Skies would probably fall into the other 10%. When I saw 311 from backstage my gut was about to blow from Pnuts 2 810s (he had them laying on their sides and stacked). Pretty deep.....
Was a time big GK amps were blowing up 8x10's left and right on TB. The "deep" 5 string button engaged with a 5 string and bass boosted is bad news.
When I had my 810 I paired it with a five string, and Aguilar db680, and a qsc 3002. Was mostly playing reggae/dub as well as southern rock/ old school country. Sold it because it was overkill for my needs now and I didn't dig hauling it around. It was loud and deep.
Never have shown up to a back line and seen an 810 and thought "oh no- I'm not going to be able to get loud or deep tonight". Ymmv though.
Never have shown up to a back line and seen an 810 and thought "oh no- I'm not going to be able to get loud or deep tonight". Ymmv though.
What type of venues, music were you playing?
You clearly land in the 10% I was talking about.
I play loud. Really too loud at times. But that's all relative too. My drummers are loud. That's also relative. I don't even own an 810 anymore. I think they're loud and deep with the correct amps though. Sub reggae deep? Was for me but I could see wanting more I suppose. 10% rule again.
I was wondering when someone was going to mention that 8x10's rarely "go deep". More specifically they are generally incapable of reproducing anything audible of the fundimental frequencies of the low register of the bass guitar. Whether particular 8x10s sound good is subjective. The frequencies that make up the "deep end" of the instrument, and whether your cabinet can actually produce those frequencies are not. Marketing departments might disagree, but suggesting otherwise would tend to missinform.
Actually they take a sharp dive around 100hz. I dont really consider that deep.
YMMV.
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So just to clarify- 810s are incapable of producing the fundamental low end frequencies of bass guitar?
I definitely don't want to misinform anyone. When I post I do so based on my years of gigging and touring but still, that's just my opinion and experiences playing in the bands I've played in. I haven't had to play loud upright slap live. I haven't played death metal against triple rectifier stacks etc. I have seen and heard buddies do it using 810s though. Again, not my cab of choice but not for the reasons pointed out in that graph.
Of 40hz there is practically nothing to be heard coming from your everyday sealed 8x10. Fundamentals of low bass notes are way overrated for the most part, very few cabs produce enough to be worthwhile. There's probably more TB'ers using fdeck HPF at 80hz or more than fearful users pumping 40hz.
Bobostein hasn't responded, I guess it'll cost more than $300 to go get it, no shipping.
S/D rock, funk/rnb.
Depends on the 810. Most commercial cabinets are not producing much under 70-80hz.
I run a fDeck at 35hz. Don't have to boost lows, as my cab is not lacking in them.
Definitely go for an 810. No other single cabinet I know of will be able to match it volume wise. I play in a stoner metal band and a thrash band and I honestly don't care for full range cabinets in the least. Extreme treble is painful to the earbuds and sub lows do nothing for note clarity or helping you cut through. With a couple of 810s you could destroy and overpower any venue imaginable. For any kind of metal you literally can't go wrong with 810's or 410's, just look at all the pros who have used them past and present. Some guys in metal use 412's or something else but they're few and far between. There's a reason for it: 810s sound awesome and get the job done.
