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Mesa Boogie M9 Megathread: Pt II

#301
I have a question-
I'm aware that using the G-EQ on/off on the footswitch will Defeat the "Voicing" if the settings are correct.
However, even with the "Defeat" switch engaged on the rear panel, when you use the front panel switch to turn On/Off the G-EQ, does it still defeat the Voicing feature? My amp is at my rehearsal spot and I just thought about this the other day and haven't been able to test it out.
Basically, can I still "switch" between the G-EQ and Voicing features without the footswitch attached, and they not just cancel each other out?
 
#303
Hey guys, newbie on this thread.

I am considering getting an M9 to replace my SWR 20th RedHead. It would be used with an Epifani UL410 2 @ 4ohms and possibly an SWR 15" cab @ 8 ohms. I'd appreciate any feedback pertaining to your experience with the M9 in the Jazz fusion / funk genre.

I play 5-6 string fretted & fretless. Would the M9 give me the hi-fi / clear tone I get from SWR ? What extras (tone wise) would the M9 provide ?

Cheers !
 
#304
The M9/410UL is gonna work really well for that.
Yessir, it will be that clear and hi-fi, with more low end (which can easily be eq'd), and a whole truckload more headroom.

I gigged a super red head for a while, the M9...well, comparing two...the Redhead is like bringing tweezers to a cannon fight up against the M9.
 
#305
Chef said:
The M9/410UL is gonna work really well for that.
Yessir, it will be that clear and hi-fi, with more low end (which can easily be eq'd), and a whole truckload more headroom.

I gigged a super red head for a while, the M9...well, comparing two...the Redhead is like bringing tweezers to a cannon fight up against the M9.
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:p:p:p Thanks ... didn't expect a connoisseur reply to make me laugh on top of things :p:p:p
 
#307
francoprof said:
I'd appreciate any feedback pertaining to your experience with the M9 in the Jazz fusion / funk genre.

I play 5-6 string fretted & fretless. Would the M9 give me the hi-fi / clear tone I get from SWR ? What extras (tone wise) would the M9 provide ?

Cheers !
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Yes. I find my M9 paired with my Sadowsky 410 cab offers killer slap/funk tone. The highs really cut through. Clarity and a hi-fi sound kinda define this amp IME....
 
#309
husky123 said:
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but on setting 4 and 5 I don't hear hi-fi at all. I hear old school thump and whoop ass.

Setting 1 and 2 maybe. That's what's cool about this beast....versatility and quickly.
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Also depends on your gain, but settings 1 and 2 are scooped and more conducive to modern funk tone IMHO, whereas 4 and 5 are mid-bumped rocky settings. I'm a #3 guy, myself.
 
#311
Just thought I'd share this with you.

I just got off the phone with Tien at Mesa Boogie : wow, talk about service ! He answered all my questions and more in our 45 min. exchange (he called me in Eastern Canada from California ... he's a real nice guy !). Man, I'm starting to see why Mesa users are dedicated folks. :p ... seems like my Redhead will be on kijiji.ca in the not so distant future ...

P.S. Thanks for the replies.
 
#313
husky123 said:
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but on setting 4 and 5 I don't hear hi-fi at all. I hear old school thump and whoop ass.

Setting 1 and 2 maybe. That's what's cool about this beast....versatility and quickly.
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Ha I'm the opposite. I definitely hear a more aggressive, mid heavy rock sound with 4 & 5, which if you look at the EQ points/curves for each Voice, is what they emphasize.
4 is a bump centered at 350ish I think and 5 is same around 170.

I use Voice 1 for more big, round stuff and have a preset on the G-EQ for other stuff. I think 1 is a dip around 540hz.

Just to follow up with my "have to use Footswitch for Voice Defeat w/ G-EQ engaged" topic, it looks to be the case. I tried it both ways last night and when you on the front panel engage the G-EQ with the Voicing set to any number (except 3 which is off/"flat"), it seems to "double EQ" the tone. When I plugged in the F/S and tried it that way, it was a much more audible difference. So at least on mine, in order for the Voice Defeat to work right you have to use the F/S it seems... :eyebrow:
 
#314
spector_boogie said:
Just to follow up with my "have to use Footswitch for Voice Defeat w/ G-EQ engaged" topic, it looks to be the case. I tried it both ways last night and when you on the front panel engage the G-EQ with the Voicing set to any number (except 3 which is off/"flat"), it seems to "double EQ" the tone. When I plugged in the F/S and tried it that way, it was a much more audible difference. So at least on mine, in order for the Voice Defeat to work right you have to use the F/S it seems... :eyebrow:
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Weird. On my last M9 the voice defeat switch worked without the pedal, but I'm, gonna check the new (to me) one I just snagged over the weekend.
 
#315
Yeah I was hoping that wasn't the case, but it does seem to be that way. Maybe I should try a different Voice setting that's a more severe difference but I could tell just by the way it got louder and my Compressor immediately started hitting that it seemed to be "double-EQ'ing" the tone.
Maybe I'll try the "Voice Active" setting and see if I can tell a difference that way by just using the front panel.
 
#316
spector_boogie said:
Ha I'm the opposite. I definitely hear a more aggressive, mid heavy rock sound with 4 & 5, which if you look at the EQ points/curves for each Voice, is what they emphasize.
4 is a bump centered at 350ish I think and 5 is same around 170.

I use Voice 1 for more big, round stuff and have a preset on the G-EQ for other stuff. I think 1 is a dip around 540hz.

Just to follow up with my "have to use Footswitch for Voice Defeat w/ G-EQ engaged" topic, it looks to be the case. I tried it both ways last night and when you on the front panel engage the G-EQ with the Voicing set to any number (except 3 which is off/"flat"), it seems to "double EQ" the tone. When I plugged in the F/S and tried it that way, it was a much more audible difference. So at least on mine, in order for the Voice Defeat to work right you have to use the F/S it seems... :eyebrow:
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No that's what I'm actually saying too. Mid heavy rock tone to me is old school. Modern voicing is scooped. Big wide lows and glassy highs. 1 and 2 for scooped, 4 and 5 for the mids.
 
#318
Yesterday after work, I came back home with a Mesa M9 head and bedtime was rather late... Three letters come to my ears (er, that should be mouth right ?) : WOW. What depth, rich tone, oomph and .. hi-fi sound . My slap is ideal at voice 1 + compressor and surprisingly so is my fretless sound (6 string FBass - compressor off) ... low, mid and high register very present, natural and resonant thank you very much. As far as EQ goes, a minimum amount of tweaking goes a long way (I'm actually very happy with EQ off with bass rolled down to 10). Finger fusion is a treat at voice 3 with my passive Jazz on bridge pickup. So far, I gotta say, this amp seems VERY versatile and plus it's so EASY to dial in a tone (I prefer simplicity). Next stop : prog sounds alla Chris Squire and co. Cheers !
 
#319
It seems likek the majority of M9 users don't need nearly the volume it offers and often use it at very low levels. Who here really cranks up the volume on a regular basis? Any issues with overheating or shutting down?

I'm still interested in the amp but I wonder if the mods made by Mesa way back when people were having overheating issues are a complete fix. If one of the old ones shuts down while at moderate volume levels and adding more vents/cooling fixes the problem, what about when the amp is really being taxed?
 
#320
I couldn't answer that, other than to say, "I run mine moderately, at 2 ohms, fairly often, and it's been fine"

I can't imagine running it hard. I don't believe I own cabs that could stand it.
 

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