He gave up 7 runs in 3 innings the last time he pitched against the Astros in September.
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MLB 2023
- Thread starter Gaolee
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If it weren’t for Trey Turner, I probably wouldn’t watch tonight.I'm starting to feel pretty confident about this prediction..! You never know though.
How about this as an option: The Rangers go a perfect 9-0 in the WC, ALDS, and ALCS, only to get swept away in the World Series by the Phillies? It still involves your Astros losing, of course, but seeing the Rangers get beat down in the WS could offer some comfort
I don't really want to like the Phillies... I was sad to see the Braves go the way they did... but I can't help but want to cheer for Philly. This team's got that dog in 'em. What a gnarly bunch.
It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Really Good. You have to admit, Joe West is famous.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
We have had made it FAR too easy to get into the hall. There is a standard - if people don’t meet it, they don't.
Looking at the candidates, Gaston, Johnson, Pinella, and Leyland won ONE championship. As players, at best I would call them good. Montague is one of many umpires who worked for many years. Peters is one of many people worked in the front office for a long time. If this is the standard, we need to add about a thousand people immediately.
Looking at the candidates, Gaston, Johnson, Pinella, and Leyland won ONE championship. As players, at best I would call them good. Montague is one of many umpires who worked for many years. Peters is one of many people worked in the front office for a long time. If this is the standard, we need to add about a thousand people immediately.
One thing: Cito won two World Series championships (back to back) as the Jays manager, not just one. And it was the franchise’s first ever WS victories. I think that is noteworthy enough to be considered for the HoF.
I like to look at HoF inductions through the lens of, “Can you tell the story of baseball without [insert name here]?” All four of those managers played pretty big roles throughout a certain era of baseball. Even if they didn’t combine to win a ton of a World Series titles, they managed and won a lot of games collectively, made headlines, had memorable moments. I could be convinced they are all fair inclusions to the HoF.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
O lot of other managers "won a lot of games collectively". Who cares if they made headlines or had memorable moments. Bartoli Colon's one home run made a lot of headlines, and is still played a lot on television. Endy Chavez made a jaw dropping catch in the playoffs.
The HOF is supposed to be for the truly great, not just the memorable.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that point
FWIW, Apparently the Hall’s motto is, “Preserving History, Honoring Excellence, Connecting Generations”.
I still think they fit in there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Leyland and Piniella are top 20 all-time in wins as managers. (Cito and Davey Johnson are admittedly more debatable, and I am of course biased about Cito as a Jays fan.)
You are on point. If championships were everything then Mike Trout wouldn’t even be in a hall of fame conversation. Those are HOF managers.
Now, what I have a huge problem with is the near automatic induction of high-level MLB executives. Why in hell would a 5-year NL president be nominated given that a strike marked the end of his stewardship? There are some exemplary people in those positions, but Bill White can’t be one of them.
The Rangers blew it
series goes back to houston, where the astros are ... uhm ... 40-45 this year.
obtw, the 'stros are 5-0 on the road in the playoffs ... so far ~
abreu receives a 2-game suspension for hitting garcia. when the rangers' pitcher hits an astro in retaliation, i wonder how many suspension games they get.
Lotta blame to go around in that one. You take an 80 days-around-the-world voyage to round the bases you are begging to be plonked; when it happens just man up and take your bass, err base. There was no head hunting or that mickey mouse missed multiple attempts we've seen so much of in recent years, just a quick plonk to the ribs. Umps then should issue warnings to both benches and that should be that, old school style. Tossing Abreu was wrong. Garcia acting like an idiot and going all ballistic was wrong. Heck in the not so old days it wasn't even the homer-hitter that got plonked but he knew the drill (no pun intended) and he just *took his base*; in this case how could Garcia object? Everybody's a frackin' prima donna these days. When it's legit head hunting or repeat offenders that's a different thing but what I saw was hot dogging at its worst and it ruined the flow of an otherwise good game. I know I'm old but "back in the day" a real veteran or three would have done a verbal butt kicking on a hot dog move like that back in the locker room.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
You don't do that in the playoffs. Same way you wouldn't do it if the basses were loaded in a close game. Batter was an idiot - so was the pitcher. There is time to get your pound of flesh, just not then.
agreed. did anyone notice how altuve reacted on the field after hitting his homer in the 9th? big difference in class and sportsmanship between him and garcia.
Exactly. Like they say in football about end zone celebrations . . . act like you've been there before and expect to be back.
