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Moral dilemma...

#121
Skitch it! said:
Judge not lest ye be judged, we are talking about a 'non malice of forethought' $250 mistake here, not The Great Train Robbery. If you want to attribute blame for serious crimes, start at the top, with those who get away with it everyday, the one's we are supposed to look to for guidance, and careful you don't fall offa that horse.
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I'm comfortable with that concept, Skitch. I'm aware it's a slippery slope and I fully understand the back half of the equation.

I completely disagree with your concept of "degrees of thievery". It's too easy to decide to move that line ever so slightly to try and pretend you still have your integrity.

All we truly own in this world is our character......
 
#122
Hmmm , just adding my opinion . Flame suit on.

Say its a family owned place, i'd pay.

A big chain , honestly I would have to think about it. Right now I can honestly say if it was Wal-Mart, I would not pay. I hate that company.


It sucks getting stuff stolen, I couldnt ever steal from a person to person , but like I said i hate huge companies , wal mart in general. So if it was from walmart I would not be paying them.


Just me and all the above is how I feel morally , not for you to judge.
 
#124
A-Step-Towards said:
Hmmm , just adding my opinion . Flame suit on.

Say its a family owned place, i'd pay.

A big chain , honestly I would have to think about it. Right now I can honestly say if it was Wal-Mart, I would not pay. I hate that company.


It sucks getting stuff stolen, I couldnt ever steal from a person to person , but like I said i hate huge companies , wal mart in general. So if it was from walmart I would not be paying them.


Just me and all the above is how I feel morally , not for you to judge.
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Then don't shop there. I don't.
 
#125
A-Step-Towards said:
Hmmm , just adding my opinion . Flame suit on.

Say its a family owned place, i'd pay.

A big chain , honestly I would have to think about it. Right now I can honestly say if it was Wal-Mart, I would not pay. I hate that company.


It sucks getting stuff stolen, I couldnt ever steal from a person to person , but like I said i hate huge companies , wal mart in general. So if it was from walmart I would not be paying them.


Just me and all the above is how I feel morally , not for you to judge.
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If you "hate" Wal*Mart so bad, you shouldn't be shopping there in the first place ;)
 
#126
A-Step-Towards said:
Hmmm , just adding my opinion . Flame suit on.

Say its a family owned place, i'd pay.

A big chain , honestly I would have to think about it. Right now I can honestly say if it was Wal-Mart, I would not pay. I hate that company.


It sucks getting stuff stolen, I couldnt ever steal from a person to person , but like I said i hate huge companies , wal mart in general. So if it was from walmart I would not be paying them.


Just me and all the above is how I feel morally , not for you to judge.
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Agreed. Most of these super corporations throw out millions of dollars on slightly damaged and or obsolete goods anyways, without even batting an eye at it, when that dinged skilsaw could be put to good use in many different places around the world that have been hit by some disaster and where serious rebuilding is happening.

And unless it was really grinding on your conscious, I highly doubt anyone at the actual store gave half a s***. But don't get me wrong, what you did is the right thing and is quite honorable, but I would have just said "fudge em'!"
 
#127
fo shizzle said:
I'm comfortable with that concept, Skitch. I'm aware it's a slippery slope and I fully understand the back half of the equation.

I completely disagree with your concept of "degrees of thievery". It's too easy to decide to move that line ever so slightly to try and pretend you still have your integrity.

All we truly own in this world is our character......
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You can't disagree with fact, only with how it's interpreted. There ARE degrees of thievery though, of course, that only matters to the law and those that choose to partake in it. And ones integrity is decided by far more than what they've stolen from Walmart, lol. Suppose I'm a peer mediator in high school, I help old ladies with their groceries, quell fights between friends, help a couples relationship not end in a fiery apocalypse and then decide to partake in the occasional "free" toilet from Walmart. Would I be lacking integrity then?
 
#128
fo shizzle said:
I'm comfortable with that concept, Skitch. I'm aware it's a slippery slope and I fully understand the back half of the equation.

I completely disagree with your concept of "degrees of thievery". It's too easy to decide to move that line ever so slightly to try and pretend you still have your integrity.

All we truly own in this world is our character......
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As I've said before honesty is an admirable quality, each to their own in this matter, I judge neither way. But it would take a little more than this for me to judge someone to be of 'bad' character if they decided not to go back.

As for degrees of thievery, you'd have to ask some of the seemingly justified Corporate and Governmental big boys, integrity is a very broad concept there, more a bandied about buzzword.

I don't agree with thievery, but this instance is pretty far from premeditated thievery, I wouldn't judge anyone on it, I guess I'm not pure enough for that one ;)
 
#129
Ray Salamon said:
If you "hate" Wal*Mart so bad, you shouldn't be shopping there in the first place ;)
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I dont.

It was hypothetical statement, just if it was a company like that , i wouldnt care.;)


Say my GF went and bought stuff from there and came back and i saw that she was not charged for an item , I wouldnt demand for her to return something.

Stealing is wrong people work hard for what they earn, usually. I just dont care for these huge corporations.

I also dont believe in karma, although my name is earl is a good show.
 
#130
Kwesi said:
You can't disagree with fact, only with how it's interpreted. There ARE degrees of thievery though, of course, that only matters to the law and those that choose to partake in it. And ones integrity is decided by far more than what they've stolen from Walmart, lol. Suppose I'm a peer mediator in high school, I help old ladies with their groceries, quell fights between friends, help a couples relationship not end in a fiery apocalypse and then decide to partake in the occasional "free" toilet from Walmart. Would I be lacking integrity then?
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To me, yes.
 
#131
this stuff happens all the time, but the store managers usually catch the people in the parking lot whether it's a mistake or not, so maybe it was kharma for some of the other items not being up to snuff or toxic, not sure

or maybe it makes up for all of the times you bought grocieries and the check out people leave some of the stuff at the register and don't put it in your bag (that's an LA thing)
 
#133
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#134
Kwesi said:
You can't disagree with fact, only with how it's interpreted. There ARE degrees of thievery though, of course, that only matters to the law and those that choose to partake in it. And ones integrity is decided by far more than what they've stolen from Walmart, lol. Suppose I'm a peer mediator in high school, I help old ladies with their groceries, quell fights between friends, help a couples relationship not end in a fiery apocalypse and then decide to partake in the occasional "free" toilet from Walmart. Would I be lacking integrity then?
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Yes, because you steal toilets and like porn :p
 
#137
irishpride28 said:
I know some of you guys will get all on me and say it's dishonest, but it's more the cashier's fault than this guy's, why should he have to pay for someone else's mistake?
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Forgetting the dishonesty for a moment, I'll get on you for your lack of logic. The only way the OP would have had to "pay for someone else's mistake" is if they were charged more than what the retail price was. Just because an error was made doesn't mean the item is a freebie.

What would you do if you played a gig and they forgot to pay you $100 of the money promised and you didn't notice until after you had left? Using your reasoning, why should they now have to pay for "your mistake"?
 
#140
Doelle said:
And on the whole matter I am with Kwesi. And either the people that think the same don't dare stating their opinion or some people in this thread is lying to us and maybe themselves, because it can't be true that only 2 people writing are selfish bastards that will keep the money the people so stupidly drop into your hands.
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Yeah, cause if a person were really honest, he would admit that he is dishonest. Makes sense.
 

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