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Need advice regarding my neighbors
- Thread starter birminghambass
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They're meth-heads. Trust me, these people are not going to change their behavior until they're dead--and that's not an option here. It's the dogs that are the immediate threat---and those dogs need go out with tomorrows trash.
If you check, according to the law it has been done - and the cost of doing so is clearly established in each state.
Can you afford the cost? I prefer to feed them for a while (the dogs, the owners can eat dirt) and let animal control take care of them, unless you have a different organization that takes care of strays.
Are they renting the house? If so, you might try contacting the landlord. We had this problem one time, pit bulls not being kept in and would chase you all over. The funny thing was that the landlord turned out to be a vet who was on the animal control board of directors. The tenants got the message quick and the dogs were removed. Even if their landlord isn't part of animal control, they may still not be happy to hear what's happening on their property.
Excellent thought. I wonder if a landlord would have any liability in a damage or injury situation?
Might be worth pursuing.
DiabolusInMusic
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I'm guessing they don't rent seeing as they came out of jail to the same home. I would have to think any landlord on the planet would evict somebody who was conducting enough criminal activity to warrant a police raid on the home.
I would think the best situation is to take video or something as evidence. I would have to think the neighbour has some serious probation if they only got a year on meth distribution charges. I am sure they would want to avoid any further legal hassle so you could always pull that card out.
I've had this problem.
Animal tranquilizers in a meatball. Call animal control say they're incapacitated.
Animal tranquilizers in a meatball. Call animal control say they're incapacitated.
I would have no problem offing the dogs in whatever way is going to be least conspicuous. Especially considering all the nuances of the history. Remember, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away. I resolve these things on my own.
I feel your pain. Literally. Creative solutions in red.
Exhibit A: I used to deliver the newspaper, on foot, in a very nice neighborhood. One whole side of a street had alley delivery, so I'd walk down and fling papers. Sometimes I'd walk alongside the USPS letter carrier. The house at 717 X Street was a veritable estate - two tennis courts, pool, huge house, four-car garage... and a GSD who was, it turned out, taking steroids. Dog was nuts. Bit me once, menaced me daily. Nothing was ever done until the dog bit the letter carrier and USPS simply didn't deliver mail to that side of the street until the situation was 'resolved.' It didn't take long.
Exhibit B: More newspaper delivery. Same street, about a block north. Dog had nasty habit of charging off front porch at me. I started carrying an air horn in a can - and wearing earplugs, against the day when. Sure enough, dog charged right into the blast and got frostbite so bad from the propellant that part of his nose had to be amputated. He was chained after he got the lampshade off.
Exhibit C: More newspaper delivery. Same street, another couple blocks north. Cocker spaniel who 'has never bit anyone in his life.' Yeah, sure. He bit me twice, I went through all the usual contortions with owner, Animal Control, etc, but owners refused to restrain the dog even though I was within five minutes of the same delivery time every weekday. A week later I had just come from diesel mechanic school and was delivering while wearing my steel-toe boots. Cocker spaniel charges down the driveway and just before he can sink his teeth into my shin, he has an unfortunate (and fatal) encounter with my boot.
Exhibit D: Neighbors. Neighbors came home from the pound one day with non-descript black lab, who they neglected - and who howled and cried nonstop. Months later, a big beautiful white dog appears. Turns out it was to keep the first one company - but it was a sheep-guarding dog, and woe be unto anyone who ventured close. I saw that dog attack joggers, 'pace' young families out walking, knock a bicyclist off her seat, and head-butt a car. It also barked, constantly, from 6am to about midnight, and sometimes all night. We had been on good terms with the neighbors, not chummy but civil, but no more. They would not silence or restrain the dog, and Animal Control would do nothing. They quit answering their phone or email. The police would do nothing because they said it was Animal Control's problem. This went on for months and I finally got ready to just get it over with. Walked over there, knowing I was going to get bit. I did. I still have the scars, and I got busted for trespassing - I was on their property uninvited. What was I supposed to do? The dog did go away, but didn't even get put down. It moved out of the city limits. Turns out the big problem was that the Animal Rescue part of the Humane Society 'pushed' these people to take the dog, and washed their hands of it. I still believe the neighbors were 98% in the wrong for not dealing with it. It took ten years to repair the relationship to something cold but barely ok.
Good luck.
Exhibit A: I used to deliver the newspaper, on foot, in a very nice neighborhood. One whole side of a street had alley delivery, so I'd walk down and fling papers. Sometimes I'd walk alongside the USPS letter carrier. The house at 717 X Street was a veritable estate - two tennis courts, pool, huge house, four-car garage... and a GSD who was, it turned out, taking steroids. Dog was nuts. Bit me once, menaced me daily. Nothing was ever done until the dog bit the letter carrier and USPS simply didn't deliver mail to that side of the street until the situation was 'resolved.' It didn't take long.
Exhibit B: More newspaper delivery. Same street, about a block north. Dog had nasty habit of charging off front porch at me. I started carrying an air horn in a can - and wearing earplugs, against the day when. Sure enough, dog charged right into the blast and got frostbite so bad from the propellant that part of his nose had to be amputated. He was chained after he got the lampshade off.
Exhibit C: More newspaper delivery. Same street, another couple blocks north. Cocker spaniel who 'has never bit anyone in his life.' Yeah, sure. He bit me twice, I went through all the usual contortions with owner, Animal Control, etc, but owners refused to restrain the dog even though I was within five minutes of the same delivery time every weekday. A week later I had just come from diesel mechanic school and was delivering while wearing my steel-toe boots. Cocker spaniel charges down the driveway and just before he can sink his teeth into my shin, he has an unfortunate (and fatal) encounter with my boot.
Exhibit D: Neighbors. Neighbors came home from the pound one day with non-descript black lab, who they neglected - and who howled and cried nonstop. Months later, a big beautiful white dog appears. Turns out it was to keep the first one company - but it was a sheep-guarding dog, and woe be unto anyone who ventured close. I saw that dog attack joggers, 'pace' young families out walking, knock a bicyclist off her seat, and head-butt a car. It also barked, constantly, from 6am to about midnight, and sometimes all night. We had been on good terms with the neighbors, not chummy but civil, but no more. They would not silence or restrain the dog, and Animal Control would do nothing. They quit answering their phone or email. The police would do nothing because they said it was Animal Control's problem. This went on for months and I finally got ready to just get it over with. Walked over there, knowing I was going to get bit. I did. I still have the scars, and I got busted for trespassing - I was on their property uninvited. What was I supposed to do? The dog did go away, but didn't even get put down. It moved out of the city limits. Turns out the big problem was that the Animal Rescue part of the Humane Society 'pushed' these people to take the dog, and washed their hands of it. I still believe the neighbors were 98% in the wrong for not dealing with it. It took ten years to repair the relationship to something cold but barely ok.
Good luck.
Buy a couple live traps. Bait with some tasty treats. Once dogs are capture, take them to an animal shelter as strays. Or wait for one of your less patient neighbors to leave out a bowl of antifreeze. I've seen that happen. Terrible
Tough problem. I would want the dogs dead but honestly, would have trouble shooting them myself. Plus if you shoot them in your yard you have to deal with the bodies. The best solution would be if the dogs "somehow" got "sick" and died at their owner's home.
It's not the dogs fault but they're animals, not humans, and sometimes dogs just need to go to doggy heaven. My idiot ex-son in law bought my grandson a dangerous dog and the boy almost lost an eye. That dog didn't live through the night, so I'll give SIL that much credit.
Unfortunately your s***head neighbors would probably replace them with dogs of the same problem. You live in a neighborhood with drug dealers, maybe you just need to move...
It's not the dogs fault but they're animals, not humans, and sometimes dogs just need to go to doggy heaven. My idiot ex-son in law bought my grandson a dangerous dog and the boy almost lost an eye. That dog didn't live through the night, so I'll give SIL that much credit.
Unfortunately your s***head neighbors would probably replace them with dogs of the same problem. You live in a neighborhood with drug dealers, maybe you just need to move...
Please don't listen to the advice to poison the dogs. If you're convinced that any nuisance animal needs to die, then find a more "humane" way to do it. Death by poisoning is almost always a long and tortuous process.
Keep on calling 911 for "dog on loose" when you or your wife sees one of these dogs on the loose, ASAP. Alert your neighbors too and have them call when they see it. You don't have to testify in court for a dog on loose case. If the cop is there and sees it, then he or she can testify to it.
As an ex-cop, calling less makes it worse for you and the neighborhood. If no one calls, then it would appear that there is no problem. If there are a ton of calls for the same thing, then the sergeants and lieutenants in that area of town try to nip it in the bud because there are other things to attend to than a constant dog on the loose situation.
There's going to be a time when the dogs will not have returned to the property, and the cops can then at least give a citation. If these people were only in for a couple months as drug dealers, then they got off on some kind of arrangement because months is a very short sentence. If this citation is enough to prove that they were not keeping the peace and being of good behavior, then that can be enough cause to be a violation of their parole and they will get their suspended time back on them.
I just spoke with my local police department and this is their recommendation:
1) If there is a person who is injured as a result of a dog attack, then get documentation of injury. A medical report of treatment by d0ctor is ideal. At the very least, take pictures of injury.
2) If you see dogs running loose, take pictures with your cell phone camera.
Injury plus documentation = police will be compelled to resolve the issue. They will deal with the owner directly to ensure dogs will no longer be a threat. If the police in your town refuse to intervene, then they are being grossly neglectful in their duty.
1) If there is a person who is injured as a result of a dog attack, then get documentation of injury. A medical report of treatment by d0ctor is ideal. At the very least, take pictures of injury.
2) If you see dogs running loose, take pictures with your cell phone camera.
Injury plus documentation = police will be compelled to resolve the issue. They will deal with the owner directly to ensure dogs will no longer be a threat. If the police in your town refuse to intervene, then they are being grossly neglectful in their duty.
