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New Aguilar AG 700!

Right now I'm considering dumping my TH 500 for either the mesa or the ag700. I'm partial to the mesa due to not so great experiences with the TH 500 which I find thin, clacky, yet still honky and very underpowered. Some people describe it as warm, but I find it the opposite, actually. I noticed the AG 700's deep is a plus 6db at 250hz. Where is the mesa's?

I've owned 2 of the Mesa 800 and 800+ and to me the Aguilar AG700 is by far the better sounding amp. The High and Deep switches are very usable unlike the Mesa 800+ deep and high switches for me. It is the best class D amp I've owned right with the Genzler 800.
 
I've owned 2 of the Mesa 800 and 800+ and to me the Aguilar AG700 is by far the better sounding amp. The High and Deep switches are very usable unlike the Mesa 800+ deep and high switches for me. It is the best class D amp I've owned right with the Genzler 800.

Definitely need to check one out. I'm afraid the deep boost at 250hz will get honky. If I remember correctly the deep on the Mesa is a a lower frequency. I'm own the TH for a couple months and find it very thin with my jazz basses.
 
Definitely need to check one out. I'm afraid the deep boost at 250hz will get honky. If I remember correctly the deep on the Mesa is a a lower frequency. I'm own the TH for a couple months and find it very thin with my jazz basses.

To me what set the Aguilar apart from the Mesa 800+ is the low end is massive while retaining its clarity. To me the deep switch on the Mesa muddied up while the Aguilar is usable. Very impressive amp.
 
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Would you say the AG700 has more low end than a TH 500? I wish my TH had a little more around 80hz.
The TH500's low EQ is set around 40 HZ, if you boost that and then select the lowest mid frequency (around 180 HZ IIRC) and boost again you should have a very thick low end. At least for me the TH500 is pretty beefy. My Mesa D-800 also has a beefy low end, but has a bit more focus/clarity to the notes.
 
I tried the Mesa 800 and found the frequency centers of the low and high mids hard and boxy sounding.
I could not adjust the eq to eliminate the tone. I think Mesa amps have a mid range tone that you love it or not so much.
I'm currently trying the TH pedal with a Demeter Minnie amp and the low end of the pedal is very thick. Still experimenting.
I've also heard some clips the the Trickfish Bullhead and it seems to have a very round and full low end.
 
I tried the Mesa 800 and found the frequency centers of the low and high mids hard and boxy sounding.
I could not adjust the eq to eliminate the tone. I think Mesa amps have a mid range tone that you love it or not so much.
I'm currently trying the TH pedal with a Demeter Minnie amp and the low end of the pedal is very thick. Still experimenting.
I've also heard some clips the the Trickfish Bullhead and it seems to have a very round and full low end.
Obviously not the case with the 800+ with its variable mid controls.
 
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...the Aguilar AG700 ..... High and Deep switches are very usable unlike the...
When I tried out an AG700 a few weeks ago, comparing it to a Tone Hammer 500, I found the Deep switch to be voiced too high, more like a mid bass boost than a true Deep switch. I also felt the Q on the mid controls to be too narrow and somewhat unmusical.

I'll stick with my Tone Hammer 500. :bassist:
 
I've owned 2 of the Mesa 800 and 800+ and to me the Aguilar AG700 is by far the better sounding amp. The High and Deep switches are very usable unlike the Mesa 800+ deep and high switches for me. It is the best class D amp I've owned right with the Genzler 800.
I am seriously considering an AG700 in addition to my 800+ but I would have to say the above is not my experience with the 800+, quite the opposite in fact. With my Barefaced 10s the deep and high switches are very useable and natural sounding. I much prefer the Mesa over the AG500 for its versatility if nothing else, but from what I have read here the AG 700 could be tempting -although I have yet to try one.
I think some amps are better suited to certain cabs, which might color our opinion of them. IME the Mesa 800+'s versatility in its tone controls matches it easily to a variety of cabs. Of course the same could well also be said of the AG700, I hope to find one to try in this country soon.
 
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I just got an AG700 yesterday. Two questions:
- The fans come on after 2-3 minutes of playing, even at extremely low volume. It that normal? The fans sound discrete but I thought they only come on after the amp heats up.
- Can the amp be used unloaded? (without any speakers connected)
Thanks!
The fan on the TH500 was a deal breaker for me, just too loud. Have you used the TH500? Is the AG700 quiter?
 
When I tried out an AG700 a few weeks ago, comparing it to a Tone Hammer 500, I found the Deep switch to be voiced too high, more like a mid bass boost than a true Deep switch. I also felt the Q on the mid controls to be too narrow and somewhat unmusical.

I'll stick with my Tone Hammer 500. :bassist:
I briefly owned a TH500 -- it had appealing qualities but, in the end, wasn't for me. The only other Aguilar amp I can recall playing is an AG500 -- this was in a recording studio, next to an old B-15 (my first time playing through one of those, too). Two very different amps in many repects (the old Ampeg and the AG), but especially in feel. The AG was hard, square-edged -- maybe a bit stiff -- but had a clarity and solidity that I felt the TH500 lacked (not trying to bag on the TH, only speaking relatively and to my taste). I thought I could like it in certain contexts (hard-hitting funk tunes, stuff with aggressive percussive techniques) but would need to explore it further. In my brief time with it, though, the high-midrange control seemed to me narrow and a little peaky -- this through an Aguilar 410 (I think a DB by the voicing -- and it was Tweed -- but I'm not sure). I was able to get a useable sound, but wasn't sure how easily I'd be able to dial it in for different sounds with different cabs.

The B-15 had its own, special magic, but that's a different amp, different story.

The AG700 looks like it might be more to my taste, generally, than the TH500, but I wonder how I'd like the EQ (and how similar it is to that of the AG500). I didn't spend much time with the AG500, so take anything I say about it with a grain of salt.

... I think some amps are better suited to certain cabs, which might color our opinion of them...
Yep.

The fan on the TH500 was a deal breaker for me, just too loud. Have you used the TH500? Is the AG700 quiter?

why do you need 500 watts? if the fan is too loud it would seem that you really don't need that much power. a fanless 50 watt amp would do
I sometimes practice late at night through the same pre+power rig (maybe minus one cab) I'll use at a loud club. Fan can be kind of annoying in that case (I know about headphones but don't like practicing through them if I can help it). Same if I practice through the little Kustom KXB500 I have (which has a loud fan -- at least as loud as the TH500's).

I've owned some nearly silent amps, too (Glock, Genzler, Eich), as far as fan noise goes. The fan noise isn't a deal-breaker for me, even practicing at home, but it's certainly nice -- and I notice the difference -- when it's not there.

I could see fan noise being an issue in certain quiet, intimate gigs or recording situations wherein a 50 Watt, fanless amp would suffice, but if you have an amp you like that you can use for the big stuff and the little stuff, why not? None of the "quiet" amps I mentioned seemed to have any problem staying cool, so it can be done.

Anyway, its importance will vary from person to person -- to each his own.
 
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For those who find the fan too loud in these amps, do not ever try out an old Hartke HA3500; it will sound like a jet engine at take off.
Sounds neat-o.

On a completely amp-related note, Jeff, that crawly bug-thing in your avatar is driving me bonkers.

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In a dark room, on my phone's screen, I took it for the real thing and tried twice to put an end to it. Probably karma for my mean-spiritedness.
 

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On a completely amp-related note, Jeff, that crawly bug-thing in your avatar is driving me bonkers.

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In a dark room, on my phone's screen, I took it for the real thing and tried twice to put an end to it. Probably karma for my mean-spiritedness.
Why aren't they all synchronized?