New Ampeg Venture Series

[JeezyMcNuggles]

I'm interested but honestly a bit torqued off that the 212 cab is only rated at 500 watts. WTH. I don't want to pair that with the also cool looking 700 watt head - I don't trust myself to not blow it up.....

It's a great match bro.

Don't worry too much about it.

It's an 8ohm cabinet

 

[Mr123Clark]

I'm curious how these will stack up to the pro neo series - I have a PN 410 that I use with my V4b for smaller gigs (big gigs is a blonde/oxblood fender super bassman 300 and matching neo 610) and I love the tones I get, but the idea of shedding over 15 lbs for the vb410 or maybe picking up a vb210 for those small gigs seems interesting to me! Love the PN410 but still is a tad weighty and also quite deep so I have to put my seats down to fit it lol

 

[abarson]

I'm interested but honestly a bit torqued off that the 212 cab is only rated at 500 watts. WTH. I don't want to pair that with the also cool looking 700 watt head - I don't trust myself to not blow it up.....

The V7 amp delivers 700 watts at 4 ohms, so somewhere around 350 watts at 8 ohms. That's just fine for the VB-212 which is 8 ohms and rated for 500 watts. To get the full 700 watts from the amp, you need to add a second 8 ohms cabinet.

 

[richntiff]

The V7 amp delivers 700 watts at 4 ohms, so somewhere around 350 watts at 8 ohms. That's just fine for the VB-212 which is 8 ohms and rated for 500 watts. To get the full 700 watts from the amp, you need to add a second 8 ohms cabinet.

I can't believe I spaced on that. MORE COFFEE STAT!!!

Well, now I have another rig to add in to my list of 'hey, that's possibly my dream rig!' Mesa is still the #1 goal, but this rig will no doubt sound fantastic, and for a lot less $$. And, a 40lb 212......

 

[Gizmot]

The VB410 goes down to 28HZ @ -3db, That is perfection for my Drop A tuning

I seriously doubt that is true (Yamaha can claim whatever they want to). Let’s see the anechoic curves!

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

I seriously doubt that is true (Yamaha can claim whatever they want to). Let’s see the anechoic curves!

Why? The 410hlf does. Why couldn't this one do it? It's the same idea but with neo speakers.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

Is the SVT/B15 switch a gain setting? That's how the description reads to me.

It's not a cab simulator?

No. They're drive settings. The SVT is higher gain, and more mid forwrd. The b15 setting has less gain, and a looser low end.

Not a voicing for the preamp, like Frankie stated. Just two different overdrives.

 

[daveman50]

I just read through the thread. So here we have it, Yamaha's big move. We've all been wondering what they would do with the brand. The 70s/Jetsons look is a bold play. The amp feature sets look good and not too far off to irritate Ampeg fans. Nice cabinets. Time will tell, but I'll go out on a limb and say they have a winner, commercially. Yamaha is a QC and manufacturing powerhouse, so reliability should be exceptional.

 

[HaphAsSard]

The VB410 goes down to 28HZ @ -3db, That is perfection for my Drop A tuning

I seriously doubt that is true (Yamaha can claim whatever they want to). Let’s see the anechoic curves!

Why? The 410hlf does.

One would think it does, wouldn't one? And yet no. The SVT-410HLF does 28Hz at -10dB, not -3dB (the PF-410HLF reaches 30Hz, also at -10dB).

 

[BaltBass5]

I can’t think of a single time in my hundred years of experience that I needed a 2 ohm rig. And there are so many heads out there with a 4 ohm minimum and they sell like hotcakes that I think 2 ohm heads have a very limited appeal. For me it would just add extra cost for something I would never need.

Mesa is doing it at around the same price point.

 

[FRoss6788]

Mesa is doing it at around the same price point.

Exactly my point earlier in the thread. Lots of competition here, and the other manufacturers seem to be able to make it work, why not Ampeg?

 

[SteveHeissner]

They're answering the challenge of the Gallien-Krueger Legacy Series.

 

[SoulReflection]

Mesa is doing it at around the same price point.

Funny, I just mentioned Mesa's comparative cab pricing to a friend of mine which is where I would be going if I was in the market. Their support, great warranty and honesty is much better, IMHO.

 

[richntiff]

I agree that 2ohm would be cool - but in terms of a practical sales point, 2ohm is not even on the radar for about 99.9% of bassists. It's just really not needed almost all of time, by almost all bassists.

Of course, neither is the single knob onboard compressor though, so who knows lol.....

 

[brianrost]

I think most of the manufacturers overcharge for their bags

Most amp manufacturers include the bag, actually.

I agree that 2ohm would be cool - but in terms of a practical sales point, 2ohm is not even on the radar for about 99.9% of bassists.

Since all the Venture cabs are 8 ohms, the only times you'd need 2 ohms is to use more than two cabs or use something other than Venture cabs. No reason for Ampeg to support 2 ohms so you can use non-Ampeg cabs.

OK, maybe you want to use a V12 with two SVT 810 cabs, that's not going to work

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

If you only use Ampeg Venture cabs, they're all 8 ohm (including the 212, which in unusual), so any Venture head can work with 1 or 2 Venture cabs, you just have to check the power ratings.

It's also strange that they don't publish the power of the heads @8 ohm, it should be around 1/2 of the power @4 ohm, so with a single cab @ 8 ohm, the amps should provide:
V3 -> 150 w @ 8 ohm? (all VB cabs)
V7 -> 350 w @ 8 ohm? (VB-410 and VB-212, other VB cabs with caution)
V12 -> 700 w @ 8 ohm? (VB-410 and VB-212 with caution)

Is that correct?

More like 2/3 for 8ohm

So the 700w should be 400-450w @ 8ohm

 

[frankie5string]

No. They're drive settings. The SVT is higher gain, and more mid forwrd. The b15 setting has less gain, and a looser low end.

Not a voicing for the preamp, like Frankie stated. Just two different overdrives.

Where do you think the overdrive lives on these amps? Little green man standing behind it with one finger in his ear and one finger in the amp-return jack? It IS controlling the preamp.
The voicing of the preamp includes the overdrive SGT is just a "block" in the preamp. It's always there.

 

[Chris Wilke]

SGT (ie "Super Grit Technology") to mimic an overdriven old school amplifier is marketing cringe. Especially when there are dozens of pedals already available to give you whatever flavor you want. I happen to like Tech21 VT Bass, which is essentially an analog Ampeg sim.

Whatever happened to "Scrambler"? Oh wait, that was 5-year old marketing cringe.

I am sure having it built-in is a plus for some folks, and I wish Ampeg best of success. I hope the amps prove to be good - the cabinets look promising.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Since all the Venture cabs are 8 ohms, the only times you'd need 2 ohms is to use more than two cabs or use something other than Venture cabs.

"I like to use more than two cabinets."

 

[Chris Wilke]

"I like to use more than two cabinets."

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I'm not gonna lie, it would be awesome to experience playing through 4 of those 212s. But I can't imagine ever needing such a rig.