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New Carvin P bass, about time?

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Well, that rock/metal P/J prototype has a few undesirable traits to me, anyway:

- No arm bevel in the body (and fairly sharp body edges, period. That's definitely "metal" ... but this bass, ergonomically, isn't going to please the high-wearin' type like me)
- beveled horn cutouts (again: very "metal")
- Neck-thru design will make headstock design options limited
- 34" scale (for the 5-string)
- Up-in-the-air finish options
- Where's the four banger?!?!

That bridge 'bucker-in-the-soapbar is intriguing, though. I do want a fairly "hot" and aggressive bass (thinking about a P/HB config for a PB, if I can convince Carvin to do a coil tap for the HB), but ...

Well, let me decrease your concern level at least a little. ;) There is an arm contour. Check the video. Whether the bass would be comfortable for you, I obviously can't speculate.

All the headstock options are available on most other neck throughs, so they could be available on this bass. It depends on whether Carvin wants to make them available. I'll be interested to see what they decide.

34" scale seems to be just fine on Carvins other 5-string basses, but that's a personal preference thing.

I'm sure that all the finishes available on every other Carvin will be available for this bass.

Carvin offers a 4-string version of every bass they make, so I would be surprised if that wasn't the case with this bass.

Anyway, though, there is still a fair amount up in the air about this new bass. That's the fun of new stuff being shown at NAMM. :)
 
Well, that rock/metal P/J prototype has a few undesirable traits to me, anyway:

- No arm bevel in the body (and fairly sharp body edges, period. That's definitely "metal" ... but this bass, ergonomically, isn't going to please the high-wearin' type like me)
- beveled horn cutouts (again: very "metal")
- Neck-thru design will make headstock design options limited
- 34" scale (for the 5-string)
- Up-in-the-air finish options
- Where's the four banger?!?!

That bridge 'bucker-in-the-soapbar is intriguing, though. I do want a fairly "hot" and aggressive bass (thinking about a P/HB config for a PB, if I can convince Carvin to do a coil tap for the HB), but ...

This bass is aimed at Metal players. Always has been since Jeff Kiesel announced he was working on one and solicited input from Metal Players.

I would imagine there would be a few headstock options.

If by 34" you're implying that a 5-string needs a 35", gotta disagree with you there. I played Laklands for years and every B string on every Carvin I've had is at least as good as every B on every Lakland I've had. But if you like a 35", as others' said, go for an XB. But you don't need it.

I've never heard of any finish options being restricted from any specific bass.

If there's a 5, there's a 4….
 
... regarding 34" vs. 35" scale for a fiver. Note that my post says "a few undesirable traits to me" ... so, yes: personal preference there.

Based on what I've seen playing with in the online bass builder, headstock options are significantly more limited for neck-through basses. That won't matter to most, but it does matter to me since I have a specific vision in mind for a bass I'd have Carvin build. (in other words: YMWillV)

Yep: lots in the air. Can't wait to see what the specs and options will be for the production version. It's plainly aimed to be aggressive, and that's what I need to counterpoint and complement what I have already.
 
Based on what I've seen playing with in the online bass builder, headstock options are significantly more limited for neck-through basses.

As was said, headstock options come down to what Carvin thinks works best with their vision for the model. Example: the Bromberg sig will likely never have another headstock option, because that's bromberg's design and Carvin maintains that consistency.
The Icon is also a very specific model for Cavin, so you don't see Icons with a bunch of different headstocks. (though an option 50 might do the trick)

The LB, however, is Carvin's modular neck-thru platform and offers nearly all headstock shapes.

I could be wrong, but I think the SB4000/5000 has been limited at times, to the SB shape. Although that seems to have been relaxed over time or with option 50.


For sake of completeness: Neck-thru doesn't have any physical restriction on headstock style, although I'm sure you knew that.
 
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I played the white PB 5 with the tortise p/g when I was there. Great build. Definitely interested. Also played the Fender
American Deluxe Jazz V and it was pretty sweet as well but I'm a P guy and I think for the $ I can custom order a better instrument from Carvin. My only issue is it's re-sale value later. I love Carvin but they aren't holding value ever. Great build quality, playability was great and the tone was true P and with the active circuit it's got just that much more. I'm up in the air right now...
 
They look great, how far different are the necks vs a jazz? Anybody in the Boston \ Boston north area have one? Or a SB4000?

I'd love to feel your neck... :ninja::hiding:

The same 20-fret SB4000 neck (Carvin N420) is used on the PB4 and it is one of the best necks I have ever played. Width like a current MIA Jazz, but front-back depth feels slightly thinner.

The tung-oil finish puts you right there with the wood and it feels sexy to the touch. The standard 14" radius is great and fretwork is top-notch (although they are not Plek'd.) The angled headstock means no string trees and great tension over the nut. The neck has a nice, natural snap to it.

The best advice I can give anyone not familiar with Carvin is to build/order a custom bass and return within 10 days if not satisfied.
 
I played the white PB 5 with the tortise p/g when I was there. Great build. Definitely interested. Also played the Fender
American Deluxe Jazz V and it was pretty sweet as well but I'm a P guy and I think for the $ I can custom order a better instrument from Carvin. My only issue is it's re-sale value later. I love Carvin but they aren't holding value ever. Great build quality, playability was great and the tone was true P and with the active circuit it's got just that much more. I'm up in the air right now...

If you're buying one to play, get a Carvin. If you're buying a bass to sell, get a Fender. I play my Carvins, I sold my Fenders.

FWIW, basses like the SB seem to be geting better resale-wise. You can buy a used MIA Fender P5 for ~$850-900, about the same as an SB5000. The difference is that the Carvin is about 2-3x the bass, IME.... If you load up an LB or XB, you're gonna likely take it in the shorts. Very few (maybe one or 2?) o the PB's have come up for sale used, so it's tough to say on those.
 
Today's pic from Carvin's FB:

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This is epic, I need a 4 banger & was looking at the Lakland Dunn but saw this thread.

How close is the neck to the Fender Jazz?
Whats the electronics on this PJ 3 band? Active Passive or just active?

Yeah, if I could find that bass to buy, I would totally buy it. Sexy mofo.

I don't have a ton of knowledge on the Fender Jazz bass neck, but compared to the ones I've owned it's similar but better imo.

The standard electronics are volume, volume, tone (w/push/pull active/passive/preamp bypass switch), stacked bass/treble boost/cut. It is an extremely functional layout. The tones you can get from it are pretty impressive. You can also swap the vol/vol for master vol/master blend.
 
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