I'd be willing to try...if somebody lent me one. Heck, I'd play it slapstyle, even.
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New Gittler Basses!
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I'd be willing to try...if somebody lent me one. Heck, I'd play it slapstyle, even.
Titanium metal work is difficult and specialized and titanium is EXPENSIVE. Low production adds to the cost.
That may or may not justify $5000 for an instrument - but you have to admit they can't just job out a bunch of parts like most other guitar makers and they're a lot most specialized than your average American Fender which can reach well above two grand - CS can easily get you into that range - and no titanium and virtually all the hardware is already sitting there in the plant - or in someone else's.
Geez - I didn't even catch the pun.
Of course, as an Isreali, he (Gittler) may not find it as amusing.
EDIT - for the record, I'm not offended, nor admonishing you, just saying.
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Sorry. Henceforth we shall all try to just have your opinion.
Yeah, that's not what I said. I never said you can't have a different opinion. I never even said you can't share it. When it's not constructive to the conversation it just makes you look like an *******, though. That was my point. Go ahead and keep spewing, though. Some people apparently like it. Including you.
Define "constructive to the conversation". If one person says "I like this!" and the next says "I don't like this!" or "That Gittler looks like an espresso machine," how is the first remark constructive, and the next non-constructive? If you have a problem with a particular post, rather than with people not liking or making a joke, maybe you should specifically reference that. Or maybe you just belong on the serious thread, if you feel that people should not make jokes about things you like. I REEEALLY hope you don't like Nickelback, though. That would be rough for you.
In spite of the whining here, that price level is not especially bad, considering:
1. It's titanium (expensive and hard to work with)
2. It is a totally unique design unavailable in clones or similar anywhere.
3. The price of say a Fodera.
4. Considering how many other luthiers have their designs in MoMA (museum of modern art).
Even if it sounds and plays like crap I want one! It is a totally unique concept and only time will tell if those ideas ever amount to anything worthwhile in bassdom. But
right now it's a part of prehistory!
Well, plenty of people say they hate it, plenty of people say they love it.
Seriously, though, I'm guessing that quite of few people who say they like it simply won't be buying one anytime soon, if ever.
Seriously, though, I'm guessing that quite of few people who say they like it simply won't be buying one anytime soon, if ever.
As to the titanium issue, if I remember correctly, the original series of Gittler guitars was machined from stainless steel, not titanium. They were also quite heavy as a result.
As a piece of industrial design, I always found the Gittler instruments really interesting. Alan Gittler was, primarily, an artist and an industrial designer. Musical instruments were only some of the things that interested him. He designed all kinds of stuff. The one-piece wood instruments he designed after relocating to Israel were pretty interesting, too.
What I find particularly curious is how many people keep referring to this as a "new direction" in instrument design when, in fact, Alan Gittler came up with these ideas over 30 years ago and they were highly publicized.
I stated earlier in this thread that I was dissapointed in the sound and feel of Alan Gittler's guitars, but that was not meant as a slight to Gittler's designs, nor was it meant to be negative. It was simply an account of my personal experience with the original Gittler guitars.
As far as the design goes, I thought they were neat in 1983 and I still do. I just don't want to play 'em.
As a piece of industrial design, I always found the Gittler instruments really interesting. Alan Gittler was, primarily, an artist and an industrial designer. Musical instruments were only some of the things that interested him. He designed all kinds of stuff. The one-piece wood instruments he designed after relocating to Israel were pretty interesting, too.
What I find particularly curious is how many people keep referring to this as a "new direction" in instrument design when, in fact, Alan Gittler came up with these ideas over 30 years ago and they were highly publicized.
I stated earlier in this thread that I was dissapointed in the sound and feel of Alan Gittler's guitars, but that was not meant as a slight to Gittler's designs, nor was it meant to be negative. It was simply an account of my personal experience with the original Gittler guitars.
As far as the design goes, I thought they were neat in 1983 and I still do. I just don't want to play 'em.
That A10 sound;
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP
Makes my dick hard!!
I think I'll reserve judgement for the time being.
It's an interesting instrument from a design perspective. But I'm not sure what it brings to the party sound-wise. IMHO the very few demos I've heard of it weren't very impressive as far as bass demos go. The Gittler guitar demos were a lot more musically interesting. (Maybe because Mssr. Gittler's "fishbone" guitar has been around a lot longer?)
Can anybody point me to some sound clips or videos (or perhaps fellow TBer rsm could do some?) that show what this bass can do that would make a fishbone bass worth considering beyond its visual novelty and industrial design elements?
I'd certainly be interested in hearing more of rather than just more about it.
It's an interesting instrument from a design perspective. But I'm not sure what it brings to the party sound-wise. IMHO the very few demos I've heard of it weren't very impressive as far as bass demos go. The Gittler guitar demos were a lot more musically interesting. (Maybe because Mssr. Gittler's "fishbone" guitar has been around a lot longer?)
Can anybody point me to some sound clips or videos (or perhaps fellow TBer rsm could do some?) that show what this bass can do that would make a fishbone bass worth considering beyond its visual novelty and industrial design elements?
I'd certainly be interested in hearing more of rather than just more about it.
I think they have something here with the fretless..
I just watched this video of Victor Wooten playing the fretless... Sounds quite good actually:
Then this guy Bob Gomez who demos the fretless at the half way mark on the video:
Pricing is a concern though
Enjoy!
I just watched this video of Victor Wooten playing the fretless... Sounds quite good actually:
Then this guy Bob Gomez who demos the fretless at the half way mark on the video:
Pricing is a concern though
Enjoy!
much more interesting than all the discussion of the first 8 pages of this thread
I think they have something here with the fretless..
I just watched this video of Victor Wooten playing the fretless... Sounds quite good actually:
Then this guy Bob Gomez who demos the fretless at the half way mark on the video:
Pricing is a concern though
Enjoy!
As I said before I've always appreciated the Gittlers as works of minimalist technical and practical art but I've never been interested in them as players.
Now that I've heard them, their sound doesn't make me feel the need for one.
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