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New GK Neo Cabs

#21
Is it just the dimensions that are different for the new Neo212's or are their differences inside the cab as well? If theres a difference in cones/electronics how does the sound differ?

I have what I assume is an old style neo212 i got a year and a half ago or so hooked up to my 1001rbII.
 
#22
tombowlus said:
I recently played an outdoor gig with an RB700-II driving a Neo212/Neo112 stack, and let me tell you, that was one killer rig! The lows are all you want/need, the highs were clear and not harsh, and the mids were powerful yet articulate. I haven't spent much time with the new 10" GK Neo's, but that 2x12 and 1x12 are extremely impressive in my book.

Tom.
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Hey Tom... I'll ask a squirrely question... How would you compare this tone (GK 212s) with an NV610 in an outside venue? Worlds apart or no?

I've been playing the NV610 on mostly outside gigs with no PA... and I've been considering some 212s to cut weight and be more modular.

Thanks!

-Mike
 
#23
MikeyB said:
Hey Tom... I'll ask a squirrely question... How would you compare this tone (GK 212s) with an NV610 in an outside venue? Worlds apart or no?

I've been playing the NV610 on mostly outside gigs with no PA... and I've been considering some 212s to cut weight and be more modular.

Thanks!

-Mike
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Those are two very, very different sounding rigs. The NV610 is a punch machine, and although it has more high end extension than you'd expect from a tweeterless 6x10, it does not have any real high-end sheen (which the GK cabs do, of course). The GK stack is pretty balanced from top to bottom, with perhaps a bit more going on down low (relative to the NV610).
 
#25
4StringsEnough said:
Would this not result in the speaker in the 112 getting twice the power of each of the speakers in the 212? Could this create problems?
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tombowlus said:
Yes, and yes (both of the cabs I used were 8-ohm cabs). However, the Neo112 is rated for 300 watts, and in my use, it held up fine. For equal power distribution to all three of the 12" drivers in that setup, ideally you'd want a 4-ohm Neo212, but that would leave you with a 2.67-ohm load, which is beyond the 4-ohm rating on the RB700-II.

I definitely share your concerns about overpowering the 1x12 in this setup. All I can say, though, is that this rig seemed to perform quite well in live use, and I never observed any signs of stress from the Neo112.


Tom.
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Actually, in that configuration, the 112 sees less power than it does if you were using it by itself. Instead of 320 watts (available from the 700rbII @ 8ohms), the head is splitting 480 watts to each cab...... heck, it doesn't even start breathing that hard with 240 watts.

In my case, if I were using that much cab all the time, then I'd get the 412. But since I rarely need to, it's a great rig..... the 112 for small gigs..... the 212 for midsize stuff, and both for the bigger venues.

Ljazz
 
#32
tombowlus said:
Everyone at that gig, including the bass player for the band after us who also used that rig, was just amazed at how good it sounded. Yes, that's right! Guitar players went out of their way to say how good a bass rig sounded!!! :eek:

The fact that it is very portable and a tremendous bang for the buck is just icing on the cake. :cool:
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I've had this experience. My G-K 700RB-II/Neo112 rig has generated more compliments and comments than any other gear I own, from other bassists, bandmates, a studio owner, etc. The tone is just phenomenal IMO, and I agree with your descriptions, which apply to my first generation cabs.

The logo change occurred before the change in generations for the Neo112. I bought my Neo 112's a few years apart, and the newer one has the ovoid logo.
 
#34
knigel said:
I'm thinking of adding a Neo112 with my SWR Bigfoot and GK 800RB. Would 100 watts be sufficient to push the 112? Or is this some crazy voodoo?

The Neo 112 is 8 ohm, i hope?
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Yes, the Neo112 is 8 ohms. I've played through a Bigfoot a couple of times, which I loved. By my (foggy) recollection it's a more old-school sounding cab than the Neo112, so I'd recommend trying the pair together, because they might not work well. IMO, my Neo112 didn't match well at all with the two other cabs I used to have: SWR Goliath III and Epifani PS115. I wasn't surprised it didn't pair with the G3, but I hoped the Epi and Neo112 might fill each others' sonic holes for a thick, full-range tone, but I thought it just sounded weird. The more efficient Neo112 dominated tone-wise. After this, I sold the SWR and Epi, and bought another Neo112.
 
#36
ozrider said:
Has anyone seen the new GK neo cabs? Arriving here in Australia next month. The local distributor is suggesting they have resized the 210 neos to fit the 212 size for stacking. A bummer for me if it does not fit the old 210 as I just bought one and was looking for a second matching cab to stack and now they may not match :(
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I just picked up my RBX 115 today, also resized,I can stack it with one of my RBX 210 cabs. I lucked out mine match. BTW, I have a great GK dealer 315.00 (new) with tax
 
#38
I picked up my RBX 115 today.New for 315.00 .

I now have 2 RBX 210 cabs and the my new RBX 115 which they resized so I can stack it on top of one of the 210 cabs.

I ran my MB2-500 through a 210 and the 115 tonight with my Hofner club. The 15 ads the touch of thick bottom, dare I say "Chocolaty" smoothness I was looking for. Very B-15ish tone.

Master- 1:00
Gain- 7:00
Treble- 10:00
Bass- 1:00
Contour- off
High Mid- 11:00
Low Mid- 7:00

I still have not done much with my 1001rb.It's my back up amp.Initially the MB2-500 was going to be the back up, but I fell more in love with the simplicity and easy to carry around MB2-500.

I have not experimented with Bi-Amping yet.Seems complicated and i have not read anything on here where people were all "dopey high" on bi-amping. My teacher told me, unless I was doing hi level shows I would not need it.


General comments on Bi-amping and GK tone?

BTW, I am not using he Master B with the boost, seems complicated.
 
#39
The primary reason for it (the HMS) is that it is pre-boost, so the "grunt" stays out of the horn. The beautiful thing of it is that it's a horn level control at the front of your amp...... so if you need more or less, you can tweak the knob without tweaking your back as you bend over and reach around the cabinet in the middle of your set.

I try not to think of it as a traditional biamp setup (and really, it's not.... it is crossed over much too high). It's easier to think of it as horn attenuation on the front panel.

I think Tom's post in this thread about the sound he got with the 112 and 212 pretty much echos my own sentiments. I'll add that once you get the gain structure down, you can pretty much nail whatever sound you need (dial in the "growl", then eq).

Ljazz
 

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