New Quilter bass amp!

[Abe-of-Bass]

I have no idea, I'm just speculating that people would be willing to pay $50 more and get the 802 because of the added features. I can't see any reason to choose the 800 over the 802.

The EQ controls would be one reason, although I guess one would probably have to use them first before realizing how incredible the 800's EQ is in it's simplicity. I imagine the masses would probably go for the more traditional EQ offering with no prior experience, so I suppose you're right. I hope Quilter releases a preamp/pedal with the 800's tone controls, or shares a schematic for DIY, because I'd love to have it available in a standalone format.

 

[wmhill]

To each their own of course, but why? Do you think an adapter will impact your tone somehow, or is it too much of a burden to carry one?

because it's 2019. I used to carry around all kinds of adapters (and direct boxes) back in the 1980s because most amps didn't have XLRs. The amps are smaller and lighter as a point of convenience. Carrying adapters isn't convenient. There are certain features one has come to expect nowadays, and this would be a deal-breaker for me.

 

[DJ Bebop]

To each their own of course, but why? Do you think an adapter will impact your tone somehow, or is it too much of a burden to carry one?

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[DJ Bebop]

because it's 2019. I used to carry around all kinds of adapters (and direct boxes) back in the 1980s because most amps didn't have XLRs. The amps are smaller and lighter as a point of convenience. Carrying adapters isn't convenient. There are certain features one has come to expect nowadays, and this would be a deal-breaker for me.

Too tough to carry?

 

[GreyBeard]

The lack of a proper DI really makes no sense to me either. This is one point where Quilter is definitely not intune with the bass amp buyers needs. As for me, I would just use one of my many DI's but, a built in XLR balanced direct out just makes a lot more sense.

 

[Downunderwonder]

Seems odd to me too. If you are trying to be the it tool for gigging then twin speakon outs doesn't rate as highly as XLR out if you ask me.

Given the Master and Input are interactive you can't really have a pre Master DI. I guess it's not the amp for you if you are a tweaker but can't maintain your own volume through tweaks.

 

[shwashwa]

I have no idea, I'm just speculating that people would be willing to pay $50 more and get the 802 because of the added features. I can't see any reason to choose the 800 over the 802.

Because the 800 has a superior EQ section? And an XLR out?

 

[DJ Bebop]

Well peteratquilter, according to TalkBass, you've shot yourself in the foot here. No XLR out.

 

[analogcabin]

A properly isolated XLR DI is really a standard feature on a pro grade amp. Who wants to carry a separate DI box?
The GK 800RB had one over 35 years ago. Genz & Genzler have a great mic level/line level, pre/post DI. A $199 TC BQ250/500 has one.... even Behringer puts a Balanced XLR DI on a bass amp. I dare say most every bass amp has one. Why? To go to the front of house easily of course, and to record direct.

Quilter simply needs to stop and correct this quickly and they will sell a lot more of these BB802’s

 

[Abe-of-Bass]

A properly isolated XLR DI is really a standard feature on a pro grade amp. Who wants to carry a separate DI box?
The GK 800RB had one over 35 years ago. Genz & Genzler have a great mic level/line level, pre/post DI. A $199 TC BQ250/500 has one.... even Behringer puts a Balanced XLR DI on a bass amp. I dare say most every bass amp has one. Why? To go to the front of house easily of course, and to record direct.

Quilter simply needs to stop and correct this quickly and they will sell a lot more of these BB802’s

But... It has a proper DI... It's just not an XLR connection. Sure, that's what I'd prefer too, and how I'd do it if I was the designer, but people talking about it like it's a deal breaker? Really? All the goodness that this amp provides (based off the 800) and you'd give that up because you might need to carry an adapter? Is there a lack of understanding that it's the exact same thing electrically, it's literally just the shape of the connector that's different?

 

[DJ Bebop]

A properly isolated XLR DI is really a standard feature on a pro grade amp. Who wants to carry a separate DI box?
The GK 800RB had one over 35 years ago. Genz & Genzler have a great mic level/line level, pre/post DI. A $199 TC BQ250/500 has one.... even Behringer puts a Balanced XLR DI on a bass amp. I dare say most every bass amp has one. Why? To go to the front of house easily of course, and to record direct.

Quilter simply needs to stop and correct this quickly and they will sell a lot more of these BB802’s

There you go, you have your directive peteratquilter
Now go save the world!
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[Brad Johnson]

So we still can‘t use it as a D.I. On stage, this time because it has no XLR out?

I've used the XLR out on mine for three years with no problems.

So I guess... no.

 

[Brad Johnson]

I’ve read on here the praises of the og Big Block and I’m sure it’s a fine amp. One that’s I’d love to try. But does anyone else find the “wattage dial” a bit gimmicky? I mean, turn the Bass knob all the way up and you’ll be hitting 800 Watts well before the Master knob is at its max right?

I really never put much thought into the markings. I set my input gain and bring the master up for the room. By ear. For all I care it could say "potato salad", "sushi", "warm bisquit" and "muskrat". They're points of reference.

 

[Brad Johnson]

because it's 2019. I used to carry around all kinds of adapters (and direct boxes) back in the 1980s because most amps didn't have XLRs. The amps are smaller and lighter as a point of convenience. Carrying adapters isn't convenient. There are certain features one has come to expect nowadays, and this would be a deal-breaker for me.

An adapter or adapter cable sticking out of the front screams "wait, why does it need an adapter?". And it's something hardly any decent head aimed at gigging with bass doesn't have. A frickin' TE Elf even has an XLR DI. Because it's a bass amp.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I really never put much thought into the markings. I set my input gain and bring the master up for the room. By ear. For all I care it could say "potato salad", "sushi", "warm bisquit" and "muskrat". They're points of reference.

Like woof, bark and, snap!

 

[Brad Johnson]

A properly isolated XLR DI is really a standard feature on a pro grade amp. Who wants to carry a separate DI box?
The GK 800RB had one over 35 years ago. Genz & Genzler have a great mic level/line level, pre/post DI. A $199 TC BQ250/500 has one.... even Behringer puts a Balanced XLR DI on a bass amp. I dare say most every bass amp has one. Why? To go to the front of house easily of course, and to record direct.

Quilter simply needs to stop and correct this quickly and they will sell a lot more of these BB802’s

I seriously doubt that this hasn't been finalized.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Like woof, bark and, snap!

Nope... those aren't on one knob.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Because the 800 has a superior EQ section? And an XLR out?

It's why I'll continue using mine.

 

[5StringBlues]

"Warm bisquit" is a great setting for blues, especially if you dial in a little " fish sammich".

 

[Taustin Powers]

The BB800's XLR out worked fine, not sure what you're talking about.

I suspect you know quite well I am talking about the XLR out being controlled by the master volume. You just don‘t agree that’s an issue, and that’s fine.

That design decision of the BB800 has been discussed and argued over to death. I‘ve seen many players state that it’s not an issue for them. I don‘t think I have seen a single person stating that it’s actually a great design choice.

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It wasn’t a deal breaker for me either, I bought one after all. Just a puzzling choice that made gigging slightly less convenient. Same as the omission of an XLR out on the 802.