New Quilter bass amp!

[Element Zero]

I really never put much thought into the markings. I set my input gain and bring the master up for the room. By ear. For all I care it could say "potato salad", "sushi", "warm bisquit" and "muskrat". They're points of reference.

I shudder at the thought of “muskrat” levels of volume. Where the heck you been playin?!?!?

 

[Downunderwonder]

But... It has a proper DI... It's just not an XLR connection. Sure, that's what I'd prefer too, and how I'd do it if I was the designer, but people talking about it like it's a deal breaker? Really? All the goodness that this amp provides (based off the 800) and you'd give that up because you might need to carry an adapter? Is there a lack of understanding that it's the exact same thing electrically, it's literally just the shape of the connector that's different?

Average TB'er is way better informed than the general market too. What does that say for market prospects?

Better off by offering a free dual tail speakon lead if you ask me.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Nope... those aren't on one knob.

Still silly names though

 

[DJ Bebop]

I really never put much thought into the markings. I set my input gain and bring the master up for the room. By ear. For all I care it could say "potato salad", "sushi", "warm bisquit" and "muskrat". They're points of reference.

I shudder at the thought of “muskrat” levels of volume. Where the heck you been playin?!?!?

 

[Wisebass]

Hi Peter

Thx for showing up!

Looks like an interesting new amp! I hope it will be as successful as the BB 800!

Removal of the XLR out

Lotsa snarky comments about that!

I like the idea of combining the headphone out with the DI out. (actually pretty cool )

A smaller "package" is what a lot of people ask for today!

(headphones don' t have XLRs that explains the use of a "jack")

On the other hand:

A balanced D.I. XLR out with a pre/ post EQ function as well as a ground/ lift switch

is a feature that has been on all of my solid state amps since 1983.

f you're on a gig and they only have an XLR for you just keep one of those little adapters on hand.

I would rather ask them to put a microphone in front of my cab! (like I always will when I use a tube amp)


My question: What is the Input on the back for?


may the bass be with you

Wise(b)ass

 

[Frank77]

I agree 100% that it is an odd design choice.

However, since it is...

Just a puzzling choice that made gigging slightly less convenient.

...saying that it "can't be used as a DI" at all was maybe just a tiiiiiiiny bit of a stretch.

I certainly don't want to re-open the "what is a DI" can of worms: I left the BB800 thread because this debate had taken over and gotten totally ridiculous. We have an expression in French that describes situations where someone is obsessing over near-inconsequential details and annoying everyone in the process, but I can't write it here (something about trying to "have sex with flies"). Anyway, the BB800 thread had become a perfect example of such a situation, IMO. Bottom line for me is that I've used the XLR out each time I've gigged and had zero issues, and the soundpersons I've worked with had zero problems with the master volume thingy. *shrugs*

Given the numerous pages of crying in the original thread, I very much expected that the XLR out was the first thing that would be different with the Bass Block 2.0. I really didn't see that effects loop coming either, especially when the Line In / Line Out functions already have dedicated connectors - maybe I'm weird but I've never used effects loop jacks as an actual effects loops on any of the amps I've owned and don't know anyone who does. *shrugs*

There must be something from a design standpoint that prevents them from including a "regular" DI (space? keeping cost down? shared parts/pcbs with the original BB800?), but only Peter would have the answer to that one.

 

[jlepre]

Any idea how many were using the XLR line in? Seems like it would've made more sense to lose that than the XLR out which is standard on most bass heads. For obvious reasons.

Why the change to conventional tone controls?

+1

 

[jlepre]

To each their own of course, but why? Do you think an adapter will impact your tone somehow, or is it too much of a burden to carry one?

Burden? Hardly, but it would be one more thing to get misplaced.

 

[wmhill]

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Too tough to carry?

I guess you missed the point and thought ballbusting was a better approach....

 

[Low Class]

If the BB802 is a great sounding amp then issue of not having an XLR will be a non issue. A Walter Woods doesn't have an XLR and it never stopped me from using it. Tone is paramount in having an amp, all the other stuff is just lagniappe(means something extra). Lots of major improvements over the BB800, it will do fine.

 

[rafitoprtx]

With the popularity and aviability of cab sim pedals and tube DIs the XLR in the amp is becoming obsolete. They did the same thing with the pedal.

 

[Low Class]

With the popularity and aviability of cab sim pedals and tube DIs the XLR in the amp is becoming obsolete. They did the same thing with the pedal.

Not always necessary yes. Becoming obsolete far from.

 

[wmhill]

With the popularity and aviability of cab sim pedals and tube DIs the XLR in the amp is becoming obsolete. They did the same thing with the pedal.

 

[GreyBeard]

But... It has a proper DI... It's just not an XLR connection. Sure, that's what I'd prefer too, and how I'd do it if I was the designer, but people talking about it like it's a deal breaker? Really? All the goodness that this amp provides (based off the 800) and you'd give that up because you might need to carry an adapter? Is there a lack of understanding that it's the exact same thing electrically, it's literally just the shape of the connector that's different?

I think, at least with me, the omission of a proper DI connection means you have to keep track of a TRS to XLR adapter which is just about the same as keeping track of a DI box. I realize that the LINE OUT also doubles as a HEADPHONE jack. How much more would it have added to production cost to just make the LINEOUT/HEADPHONE jack a XLR pre-post DI and add a separate 1/8" headphone jack? Players want a "one box solution".

 

[rafitoprtx]

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Not only DIs giging with amps is becoming obsolete too.

 

[Big String]

Wow ... how about that Nick Campbell ... what a great player check out some of his YouTube vids.
at first I didn't quite appreciate this man's talent checking out the new Quilter gear but he is a monster player IMO.

 

[wmhill]

Not only DIs giging with amps is becoming obsolete too.

hahahahaaa! sure it is!

 

[wmhill]

I shudder at the thought of “muskrat” levels of volume. Where the heck you been playin?!?!?

 

[DJ Bebop]

I guess you missed the point and thought ballbusting was a better approach....

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[analogcabin]

An XLR to TRS adapter? Really?
It’s bad enough we have dongles on (Mac) computers.
No need for an adapter/dongle on a bass amp.
They missed it on that point.

I bet the amp will sound great but let’s just be honest..... far more users need a legit DI than a self contained bass amp with a balanced line in, on the off chance you want to use it as a stand alone power amp.
Very odd.