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NHL Regular Season 2017-18

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I'd heard (from reliable sources! Ha!) that when Tortorella and Trotz shook hands after the Columbus series that Torts said "We'll get you next year". Trotz allegedly said something along the lines of he "won't be coming back". So I got the feeling that this announcement might be staged to save face for at least one of the interested parties. Can't blame Trotz...he's now won it all, has money in the bank, and he's mentioned more than once about spending time with his family. He has an adult special-needs son who requires full-time attention, so props to you Barry. Still miffed that the Caps won but I'm happy for him that he's got his Cup. :thumbsup:
 
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Can't complain much about the NHL Awards last night. Not having a designated host worked well most of the time. And Linda Carter looked as gorgeous as ever. The finale with the Humboldt tribute (and the coach's wife's speech) was quite emotional, to say the least.

No problem with Taylor Hall taking the Hart, although I picked MacKinnon by a hair. Barzal was a no-brainer for the Calder. Even Rinne winning the Vezina was debatable but still OK. But Hedman winning the Norris? He was a distant third IMO. Perhaps I don't watch enough Lightning games, but he has never really impressed me to the point of matching the accolades he receives.

Oh well. Looking forward to next season! Game On! :hyper:
 
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Yeah, I think Trotz' signing is huge as it likely takes JT off the free agent market. I still say he gets to July 1 as a Free Agent, but only to gauge his worth on the open market so the Isles can pay him what he wants.

Now if Lou can get Grubauer out of DC. A good goalie is imperative to really moving that franchise forward.
 
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dwm74 said:
Grubauer is an RFA. He wants to start. He deserves to start. That ain't gonna happen in DC as long as Holtby is there. I may be mistaken, but as an RFA he's not required to sign with the Caps even if they match any other offer. (If I'm wrong about that please clarify)
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Basically. If he doesn’t accept their qualifying offer (which they have to make by tomorrow) or contract extension, he becomes a UFA as of July 1st.

In between these 2 dates, another team can offer sheet him, and the Caps have the option to match it. That rarely happens, as GM’s really don’t want to piss off other GM’s, and they have to give up a draft pick.

If he gets offer sheeted and signs it, he has the option of declining the Caps offer match and go to the other team.


By yes, he can decide to not sign any offers and become a UFA as of July 1st. Do any seem to happen very often though.
 
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DerekW said:
Basically. If he doesn’t accept their qualifying offer (which they have to make by tomorrow) or contract extension, he becomes a UFA as of July 1st.

In between these 2 dates, another team can offer sheet him, and the Caps have the option to match it. That rarely happens, as GM’s really don’t want to piss off other GM’s, and they have to give up a draft pick.

If he gets offer sheeted and signs it, he has the option of declining the Caps offer match and go to the other team.


By yes, he can decide to not sign any offers and become a UFA as of July 1st. Do any seem to happen very often though.
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I don't think this is exactly correct.

A team only needs to extend the qualifying offer to retain the player as an RFA. It doesn't matter whether the player accepts it. Often the qualifying offer is only the beginning of the negotiations. Once the qualifying offer is extended, the only path to UFA status would be if the team rescinded the qualifying offer.

If the player signs an offer sheet from another team, he is legally under contract and no further negotiations can take place. The original team holding the RFA rights has the option to match the contract. If that happens, the player is immediately under contract with the original team. The original team essentially takes on the signed contract, and the player does not have the option to refuse the original team's matching offer. If the original team decides not to match, they are compensated with draft picks.

If an RFA does not want to sign with their original team, the only option is to sign no contract at all and hold out until his RFA rights are traded.

that's my understanding, anyway.
 
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DerekW said:
I give up, but you are correct, if the current team makes a qualifying offer, and the player doesn’t accept it, he reamains an rfa... what I can’t figure out is, how long does he remain that way?
I thought it was until July 1st only?

And I know there is the whole arbitration thing, but I don’t fully understand how that works (either, lol)
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A player is eligible to become a UFA at age 27, or having played in the NHL for 7 years. If an RFA is holding out, I assume that time does not count towards the 7 years. Thus, if a team and player are truly at an impasse, the player can hold out until they are 27 years old. Of course, a player holding out is of no value to a team, so they are usually signed or traded before too long.

Khabibulin held out almost 2 seasons until he was traded from the coyotes to the lightning. His contact was up after the 98-99 season, and he was traded in March of 2001.

I'm not sure when an RFA is eligible for arbitration, but I think the player is usually the one to initiate the process. Both sides make their case and the arbitrator decides the salary. The team can accept the arbitration ruling or walk away. If they walk away, the player is immediately declared a UFA.
 
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Let's see... the Coyotes need goal scorers desperately. So, with the fifth pick, they pass on a guy who scored 44 goals last season in juniors who was ranked in the top 5 in the draft, and instead select a guy who scored 21 goals, and was ranked 14th.

Some things never change...sigh.
 
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dwm74 said:
Let's see... the Coyotes need goal scorers desperately. So, with the fifth pick, they pass on a guy who scored 44 goals last season in juniors who was ranked in the top 5 in the draft, and instead select a guy who scored 21 goals, and was ranked 14th.

Some things never change...sigh.
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Guess they felt they needed a center more.
Still a mistake, and the Wings are giggling.
 
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