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Noble Amps Preamp

I've learned not to make a final judgment on any Preamp or piece of bass gear until I play it live in a Full band setting. There has been basses and Preamps I didn't like at all until I played it live with bands I play with. That's where you find out what a piece of gear is truly made of.

Agree, and even more so with the double bass. In that arena, there are three facets to the equation: The sound of the bass, how the acoustic sound blends with the preamp, and the blend with the band.

Even leaving out the last one for now, so many double bassists are looking for a preamp to sound as much like their acoustic bass tone as possible, so that they can make that tone louder. But it really isn't about that on the bandstand; on the bandstand, it's about wrapping the more organic acoustic sound around the more solid core of the amplified signal, which is what gives the sound enough weight to hold the right spot in the mix. For me, the Noble is the best thing I've found yet that does this, even though if I soloed and recorded a direct signal I might not have thought it was all that special. In real life, it provides the spine of the sound, and the acoustic sound provides the flesh, and together the mix is a joy to wear as a sonic supersuit.

For electric bass, I think it sounds great and aligns the signal somehow to make it respond in a way that is really lovely. But then, I haven't been a serious electric player for about 20 years, so take that assessment with enough grains of salt to fill half a shaker. :)
 
I've had a Monique 700 for a few weeks now and love it.. I just received a Monique preamp and a Noble as well.. I love the Monique for that tube drag/pillowy tone.. The Noble sounds great as well.. I've only had a little time with them and used my Lakland Sonic 5 with Aguilar single coil pickups and Hi Beams.. I want to try my MBasses 55' five string with Nordstrand pickups and LaBella flats on it next.. I do want to try the Oracle and another Kern as well.. I'm going for more of that old school thump/tone.. My main amps have been the Bergantinos B/Amp, Forte and Forte HP..
 
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I've learned not to make a final judgment on any Preamp or piece of bass gear until I play it live in a Full band setting. There has been basses and Preamps I didn't like at all until I played it live with bands I play with. That's where you find out what a piece of gear is truly made of.

This is so true. Sadowsky pre-amp is one of the great example. Not really the best on how it sounds like by itself but accompanied with other instruments it shines.
 
I've learned not to make a final judgment on any Preamp or piece of bass gear until I play it live in a Full band setting. There has been basses and Preamps I didn't like at all until I played it live with bands I play with. That's where you find out what a piece of gear is truly made of.


Same here. I loved my Noble in practice/rehearsal and then once I brought it to the first gig, I couldn’t say no to it ever again. Always on.
 
Before anyone ventures down a path of interpreting that the Noble is not a stellar piece of kit, let me say it absolutely is. It sounds great and is amazingly well built. The DI alone sounds great. Adding in EQ makes it more versatile. I have no doubt it would great in a mix and take a bass guitar signal and make it sound, well, better. If you want an easy-to-use device that is about as plug-and-play as it gets, the Noble is on a different level than many (most) other preamp pedals I've tried.

The RNDI sounds just as good to me as the Noble without EQ applied. If I had to pick a favorite, I'd give the edge to the RNDI for straight DI signal because to my ear it adds a sweetness to the highs that the Noble doesn't. Everything else is quite equal. But I doubt that's why most people buy the Noble. They want a sweet DI signal with the ability to tweak the tone too. But it doesn't really offer the tube sound I was looking for in a tube preamp.

The Oracle can be dialed in to sound pretty much just like the Noble but offers far more in the way of tone tweaking including being more aggressive, offering more complexity in mids (and mid control), and having more of the "tube tone" we assume a tube device would have. Which is better between the Noble and Oracle? For me, the decision is easily the Oracle. Maybe not for you. This is especially true if you just want to plug in and go. The Noble offers the 9 volt outputs to power other pedals which may be enticing to you. The fact that these outputs are not isolated means that this is not an attractive feature for me. The Oracle does lack a XLR out though which might be a deal breaker for some.

Then there is the Grace Alix. It is not a tube preamp. But it sounds just as full and big, if not more so than either the Oracle or Noble because it has this bottomless feel to it. It has more of a 3D complexity than either the Oracle or Noble. It isn't a tube hairiness, no its just something sweet and spacial. Maybe it is the transformer. It is easily the most versatile with full sweepable HPF, phase reversing (the magic button), fully sweepable mids (and selectable in which range), sweepable Q, Notch filter (if you want), and impedance selection. The XLR is ridiculously quiet. Those features matter to me. Maybe not you. For a non-tube preamp it has a complexity of sound I've never experienced. The Trickfish Trilobite is similar but the phase reversal switch and mid Q allows you to make the Grace Alix have a very focused, punchy, solid state type of pristine sound, or roll it off for a wider, looser, more tube type experience. The impedance selection makes the Grace Alix a tone machine for anything from high output active basses to passive basses to upright basses with piezo systems. Then you have other features I will likely never use like the 12 volt phantom power out. The Alix also has a 9volt output to power other pedals. The Mute footswitch is important to me. I appreciate having the Tuner out which allows me to keep the tuner pedal out of the signal path. I appreciate the line level and mic level selection for the DI out. I appreciate the up to 10db boost option with footswitch to activate when a slight boost is needed (such as on choruses or situations where a little more gain is needed to "keep up").

Circling back to the Noble, there is a reason you don't see many on the used market. It's very, very nice for what it is.
 
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Same here. I loved my Noble in practice/rehearsal and then once I brought it to the first gig, I couldn’t say no to it ever again. Always on.
That was my experience as well. I have had the opportunity to play the same room with same FOH tech and the Noble really has made a difference in my level of confidence that I’m sounding the way I want. I’m always engaging the HPF-like low-end frequency cut with my Noble as well.
 
Before anyone ventures down a path of interpreting that the Noble is not a stellar piece of kit, let me say it absolutely is. It sounds great and is amazingly well built. The DI alone sounds great. Adding in EQ makes it more versatile. I have no doubt it would great in a mix and take a bass guitar signal and make it sound, well, better. If you want an easy-to-use device that is about as plug-and-play as it gets, the Noble is on a different level than many (most) other preamp pedals I've tried.

The RNDI sounds just as good to me as the Noble without EQ applied. If I had to pick a favorite, I'd give the edge to the RNDI for straight DI signal because to my ear it adds a sweetness to the highs that the Noble doesn't. Everything else is quite equal. But I doubt that's why most people buy the Noble. They want a sweet DI signal with the ability to tweak the tone too. But it doesn't really offer the tube sound I was looking for in a tube preamp.

The Oracle can be dialed in to sound pretty much just like the Noble but offers far more in the way of tone tweaking including being more aggressive, offering more complexity in mids (and mid control), and having more of the "tube tone" we assume a tube device would have. Which is better between the Noble and Oracle? For me, the decision is easily the Oracle. Maybe not for you. This is especially true if you just want to plug in and go. The Noble offers the 9 volt outputs to power other pedals which may be enticing to you. The fact that these outputs are not isolated means that this is not an attractive feature for me. The Oracle does lack a XLR out though which might be a deal breaker for some.

Then there is the Grace Alix. It is not a tube preamp. But it sounds just as full and big, if not more so than either the Oracle or Noble because it has this bottomless feel to it. It has more of a 3D complexity than either the Oracle or Noble. It isn't a tube hairiness, no its just something sweet and spacial. Maybe it is the transformer. It is easily the most versatile with full sweepable HPF, phase reversing (the magic button), fully sweepable mids (and selectable in which range), sweepable Q, Notch filter (if you want), and impedance selection. The XLR is ridiculously quiet. Those features matter to me. Maybe not you. For a non-tube preamp it has a complexity of sound I've never experienced. The Trickfish Trilobite is similar but the phase reversal switch and mid Q allows you to make the Grace Alix have a very focused, punchy, solid state type of pristine sound, or roll it off for a wider, looser, more tube type experience. The impedance selection makes the Grace Alix a tone machine for anything from high output active basses to passive basses to upright basses with piezo systems. Then you have other features I will likely never use like the 12 volt phantom power out. The Alix also has a 9volt output to power other pedals. The Mute footswitch is important to me. I appreciate having the Tuner out which allows me to keep the tuner pedal out of the signal path. I appreciate the line level and mic level selection for the DI out. I appreciate the up to 10db boost option with footswitch to activate when a slight boost is needed (such as on choruses or situations where a little more gain is needed to "keep up").

Circling back to the Noble, there is a reason you don't see many on the used market. It's very, very nice for what it is.

I agree. I'd also like to add that I bought the Noble after trying it (briefly) at a friend's place, and back then I wasn't that impressed. Maybe because of his rig, maybe because I couldn't test it loud and/or in a real setting, but I figured: A lot of people use it and it definitely sounds good on most videos I've heard. Worst case scenario I can just record some demos with it and sell it after that to someone who doesn't want to wait 12 weeks.

I don't know what Jack did with the guts of the Noble, but the bass sits incredibly well with kick drums and adding juuuust a little bit of EQ makes the bass sound and feel amazing. I'm keeping mine :D
 
A few pictures here that I took for another thread.

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So question for Noble users on here. What Compressor are you using or have used that works best with the Noble. I have a Union Tube & Transistor Compressor currently and love it but have seen alot of Noble users say the Cali76 is really nice with these Preamps.

Far as I know I'm the only guy using a Markbass Compressore with the Noble. It's a fantastic tube compressor that has an extremely low noise floor. Dead silent which is all the more amazing considering it runs on a tube. Noble quality circuitry. One of my best gear investments. Not sure why it's not more popular.

Great test results and reviews here by two different TB members.

Markbass Compressore

Testing Compressors: Cali, Smoothie, Empress, Diamond, Keeley, FEA, Darkglass, Doc Lloyd, JHS & more
 
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@Bassworship1 I would be interested in trying the Cali76 CB in front of the Noble as well as the Lab. Those are two compressors I don't have on hand right now.

I will say the Noble is the first preamp where my Effectrode LA-1a tube compressor does not enhance the tone. I'm surprised by that. The Effectrode sounded incredible in front of the Shaw, Oracle, and SLO. Maybe a phase issue. The Markbass is another compressor I reviewed favorably that I would expect would sound good in front of the Noble.
 
@Bassworship1 I would be interested in trying the Cali76 CB in front of the Noble as well as the Lab. Those are two compressors I don't have on hand right now.

I will say the Noble is the first preamp where my Effectrode LA-1a tube compressor does not enhance the tone. I'm surprised by that. The Effectrode sounded incredible in front of the Shaw, Oracle, and SLO. Maybe a phase issue. The Markbass is another compressor I reviewed favorably that I would expect would sound good in front of the Noble.

I can vouch for the Markbass. Boutique quality.
 
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So question for Noble users on here. What Compressor are you using or have used that works best with the Noble. I have a Union Tube & Transistor Compressor currently and love it but have seen alot of Noble users say the Cali76 is really nice with these Preamps.
I have the Cali compact bass
 
Question for Noble and Cali owners! Do you power your Cali using the 18v boost cable or just regular 9v? I’ve ordered a new Cali to use with my Noble when it gets here and know that you can power with both but didn’t know what was better.

I always powered with 18v. I've read that its better than 9v, but I’ve never ran the Cali at 9v so I really can’t confirm if it is actually better at 18v.
 
Question for Noble and Cali owners! Do you power your Cali using the 18v boost cable or just regular 9v? I’ve ordered a new Cali to use with my Noble when it gets here and know that you can power with both but didn’t know what was better.

With your Roscoe basses you will definitely want to run at 18volts. I can almost guarantee you will encounter clipping if you don't.