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Noble Amps Preamp

Also, does anyone gig their Noble regularly, or is it more for studio use?
Any tube failures out at gigs, or mostly smooth sailing?
Very intrigued…
I've used mine for hundreds of gigs at this point. All around the US, as well as jaunts in AUS and UK (love the dual-voltage capability).

My Noble has been stepped on, spilled on, rained on, snowed on, kicked, sat out for hours in direct sunlight, left in freezing vans and hot trailers. Took it all like a true piece of professional equipment and was none the worse for wear.

I recently sent it in for a repair (damaged due to bad power at a rehearsal space) and the only other thing wrong was that one of the tubes was on its way out and wasn't up to Jack's specs. The only thing that could kill my Noble had nothing to do with the unit itself. Jack did a beautiful repair and it's been better than ever since then.

I've said this before, probably in this very thread, but I relish the chance to repeat it:

I have a friend who keeps his Noble in a pelican case (rather than on a board) and practically uses white gloves and a velvet pillow when he handles it. The Noble is an expensive piece of gear, I get it. Some people can't help but have anxiety when they spend so much money on something. But I've got empirical data from real-world stress testing, and I'm here to tell you that the Noble is a freakin' TANK.
 
I've used mine for hundreds of gigs at this point. All around the US, as well as jaunts in AUS and UK (love the dual-voltage capability).

My Noble has been stepped on, spilled on, rained on, snowed on, kicked, sat out for hours in direct sunlight, left in freezing vans and hot trailers. Took it all like a true piece of professional equipment and was none the worse for wear.

I recently sent it in for a repair (damaged due to bad power at a rehearsal space) and the only other thing wrong was that one of the tubes was on its way out and wasn't up to Jack's specs. The only thing that could kill my Noble had nothing to do with the unit itself. Jack did a beautiful repair and it's been better than ever since then.

I've said this before, probably in this very thread, but I relish the chance to repeat it:

I have a friend who keeps his Noble in a pelican case (rather than on a board) and practically uses white gloves and a velvet pillow when he handles it. The Noble is an expensive piece of gear, I get it. Some people can't help but have anxiety when they spend so much money on something. But I've got empirical data from real-world stress testing, and I'm here to tell you that the Noble is a freakin' TANK.

At least you haven't sworn at the Noble. That would be a deal breaker. : )
 
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My video on the new cali bass comp was recorded through my Noble. It sounds great :)
Thanks!
I’m going to check this out, first thing when I get off work.
I went down the rabbit hole---actually a few of them---trying to find the right combo. I really like the Cali76 (newest version) with the Noble. I am using it at church. It's been smooth sailing.
The Noble sounds great on it's own, but the Cali76 really enhances it nicely. I tried some other nice compressors, but I really like how the Cali and Noble interact.

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This is good to hear, I just ordered the new Cali 76 myself. Thanks!
I've used mine for hundreds of gigs at this point. All around the US, as well as jaunts in AUS and UK (love the dual-voltage capability).

My Noble has been stepped on, spilled on, rained on, snowed on, kicked, sat out for hours in direct sunlight, left in freezing vans and hot trailers. Took it all like a true piece of professional equipment and was none the worse for wear.

I recently sent it in for a repair (damaged due to bad power at a rehearsal space) and the only other thing wrong was that one of the tubes was on its way out and wasn't up to Jack's specs. The only thing that could kill my Noble had nothing to do with the unit itself. Jack did a beautiful repair and it's been better than ever since then.

I've said this before, probably in this very thread, but I relish the chance to repeat it:

I have a friend who keeps his Noble in a pelican case (rather than on a board) and practically uses white gloves and a velvet pillow when he handles it. The Noble is an expensive piece of gear, I get it. Some people can't help but have anxiety when they spend so much money on something. But I've got empirical data from real-world stress testing, and I'm here to tell you that the Noble is a freakin' TANK.
Wow, this is encouraging to hear.
Much thanks! Real world use is always excellent data to have.
 
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I've used mine for hundreds of gigs at this point. All around the US, as well as jaunts in AUS and UK (love the dual-voltage capability).

My Noble has been stepped on, spilled on, rained on, snowed on, kicked, sat out for hours in direct sunlight, left in freezing vans and hot trailers. Took it all like a true piece of professional equipment and was none the worse for wear.

I recently sent it in for a repair (damaged due to bad power at a rehearsal space) and the only other thing wrong was that one of the tubes was on its way out and wasn't up to Jack's specs. The only thing that could kill my Noble had nothing to do with the unit itself. Jack did a beautiful repair and it's been better than ever since then.

I've said this before, probably in this very thread, but I relish the chance to repeat it:

I have a friend who keeps his Noble in a pelican case (rather than on a board) and practically uses white gloves and a velvet pillow when he handles it. The Noble is an expensive piece of gear, I get it. Some people can't help but have anxiety when they spend so much money on something. But I've got empirical data from real-world stress testing, and I'm here to tell you that the Noble is a freakin' TANK.
I’m just a weekend warrior and my noble lives on my pedalboard.

I really feel bad when I adjust the volume control mid song with my foot lol
 
I’m thinking of building a portable pedal board. Just a Noble, Cali 76 bass compressor, and a Turbo Tuner ST-300.
Do you think the Noble would be able to power the bass compressor & tuner without any issues?
The Cali 76 is the updated model which boosts internally up to 24V. Not sure if the 18V booster cable from Noble is needed, or if the standard 9V supply provides enough power/headroom.
 
I’m thinking of building a portable pedal board. Just a Noble, Cali 76 bass compressor, and a Turbo Tuner ST-300.
Do you think the Noble would be able to power the bass compressor & tuner without any issues?
The Cali 76 is the updated model which boosts internally up to 24V. Not sure if the 18V booster cable from Noble is needed, or if the standard 9V supply provides enough power/headroom.
You should be fine powering both units with the Noble.
 
One other happy discovery with Noble to share....

First, I asked Jack about the built-in "low cut" switch, how it compares to a High Pass Filter (HPF) like the Fdeck, and what his theory was for its use. He said:

As for the low cut switch, yes this is a high pass filter or HPF. A first order HPF drops at 6dB/octave (or 10dB/decade). Adding additional filter components can increase this to 12dB/octave for a 2nd order filter, 18dB/octave for 3rd order, 24dB/octave for a 4th order filter, etc.​
Most solid state filters will be 2nd or 4th order, thus the 12dB or 24dB/octave slopes that you noted. Solid state filters can be made very small and cheaply with opamps, where tube circuits are big and would need more tubes to increase the filter order. 90Hz is the correct “corner frequency” for the Noble HPF but it rolls off so slowly that it takes several octaves to get down to business.​
My original idea was to try to dip the bass around the range of the kick drum (60-80Hz usually), but of course guys have found all sorts of uses for that switch like Tim Lefebvre cutting the lows and then jacking the bass knob or Ian Allison told me in a boomy room he likes to cut the bass with the switch and dial some back in to taste with the knob. As far as how to use with an external HPF, I’d say just go with what sounds best to you and your band and your FOH. There’s typically no right answer in art. :)

I used to use Fdeck Series 2 and 3 HPFs when I gigged acoustic bass guitar and then acquired a double bass. The HPF was incredibly useful for cutting the low end junk generated by piezo pickups. I sold the acoustic instruments and am now exclusively electric, but had also sold my HPFs presuming they would not be as helpful.

What triggered my questions was a recent repurchase of a Genz Benz Shuttle 3.0 amp due to a memory of its incredible tone. I've mainly been using the Noble through power amps or the effects loop of an integrated pre/power amp. Leaving Noble out of the chain, when I plugged in my Barefaced Super Twin 212, immediately I heard a refined difference compared to running the Noble through a power amp. As a Noble Convert, I immediately wondered with alarm, "How can this amp possibly sound better than a Noble?" Further investigation revealed the Shuttle 3.0's preamp has a built in HPF fixed around 35-40Hz. Deducing the HPF was the happy culprit, I ordered Fdeck's HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini to test the sonic theory. When I plugged in the new HPF @ 35Hz, it instantly was obvious that the HPF was the difference in sound. When I set the Fdeck to 90Hz, the sound was similar to using just the Noble's low cut switch. That tone is a bit too thin for my ears, but as Jack points out, can be used for interesting applications. This experience is just in my quiet home studio, so I predict it will have the same benefit for live sound. Such a simple solution! After playing around, the 55Hz setting sounds more full and open than 35Hz. Who would have thought??

The HPF-Pre is powered by Noble's 14v jack and Jack's custom cable that boosts it to 18v. The HPF-Pre runs on 9v, but a higher voltage helps provide headroom, according to Francis Deck.

To wrap this story up, I conveyed the experience to Jack, who responded:

That makes sense. The Fdeck pedal is a great way to get exactly the low end control you want, and it’s small and easy to add to your pedal board.​

The moral of the story is Noble is still the #1 tube preamp but sometimes can get a little extra help from a sibling device. For you pedalboard sluts, here's what's now on the Nano+:

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I'll have to give my FDeck HPF a spin after reading your post. I use the Noble HPF, dial up the bass pretty seriously (like 12 - 1:00), and have been using it that way for live work for several years. It delivers very full but never boomy output. I'm already happily combining the Cali76 with the Noble, but it's always interesting to see how these devices work (or don't work well) together.

Did I miss some Noble development ? do newer versions of the Noble have higher voltage power ports ? Mine is a fairly old unit (for a Noble) and only has 9v outs. I use Jacks 18v cable to power my Cali76 for more headroom, but otherwise it's all 9v power.
 
Recently expanded my horizons with a Cali76CB. The most surprising discovery was how much the Cali's HPF enhances tone even though it's preceded by the Fdeck HPF-Pre Series 3 Mini. Both provide significant benefits. When tracking the bass, I prefer to omit the three small pedals and route the bass straight into the Noble (no EQ) and handle processing in the DAW. The extra space between the Noble and Cali facilitates easy cable plug access.

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Nice board!
I’m actually in the process of building a very similar setup. Looks you’re powering everything from the Noble.
Any issues or unwanted noise?
I was contemplating whether I should get an isolated power supply.
Thoughts?
 
Nice board!
I’m actually in the process of building a very similar setup. Looks you’re powering everything from the Noble.
Any issues or unwanted noise?
I was contemplating whether I should get an isolated power supply.
Thoughts?

I have mine set up with a Cioks Sol under the board. Having two IECs isn't ideal, but I just use a splitter cable. I like having the Cioks because I can run pedals at all different voltages...my wireless is 12V. I had a chorus on my board that is 12V. I used to run the Cali76 older version at 18V.

Here is the splitter cable:

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Nice board!
I’m actually in the process of building a very similar setup. Looks you’re powering everything from the Noble.
Any issues or unwanted noise?
I was contemplating whether I should get an isolated power supply.
Thoughts?

No noise. The Noble does a fine job of carrying the power load without an extra supply.
 
I have mine set up with a Cioks Sol under the board. Having two IECs isn't ideal, but I just use a splitter cable. I like having the Cioks because I can run pedals at all different voltages...my wireless is 12V. I had a chorus on my board that is 12V. I used to run the Cali76 older version at 18V.

Here is the splitter cable:

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I do exactly the same thing with the IEC splitter and CIOKS.
 
I have mine set up with a Cioks Sol under the board. Having two IECs isn't ideal, but I just use a splitter cable. I like having the Cioks because I can run pedals at all different voltages...my wireless is 12V. I had a chorus on my board that is 12V. I used to run the Cali76 older version at 18V.

Here is the splitter cable:

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Interesting! I didn’t even know they made splitter cables like that, cool.
With the newer Cali 76 compressors having the internal boost to 24V, do you just hook up to 9V? I just got the same compressor, and am just using a 9V wall plug for now.
No noise. The Noble does a fine job of carrying the power load without an extra supply.
Interesting, this is good to hear!
Only plan to run a Turbo Tuner, and a Cali 76 before it. I believe both only need 9V
(I think). Noble should be here by the weekend, so I haven’t had a chance to test if there’s noise / interference.
 
Interesting! I didn’t even know they made splitter cables like that, cool.
With the newer Cali 76 compressors having the internal boost to 24V, do you just hook up to 9V? I just got the same compressor, and am just using a 9V wall plug for now.

Yes, I am running the Cali76 at 9V. I had a bigger board with a 'power strip' type module with two AC outlets. I liked that set up because it also had a power switch. But, it was big, bulky and heavy. I'm liking the smaller board, and the split IEC cable works well. I just align the Cioks below so the IEC cables are the same direction and close enough that I don't have to have the power cable at a funky angle.
 
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Just dropping by this thread to say that I saw Walter Trout tonight. His bass player is John Avila of Oingo Boingo fame. I talked with John after the show and commented on the Noble on his board. He proceeded to RAVE about it. Said it was the secret sauce. He’s had the Noble for less than a year but said he will eventually have to will it to someone when he passes because it is that good. First, he hopes to play through it for 20+ more years.

John was a very, very nice guy. He was a joy to speak with.
 
When running a Noble through a house rig, and there’s both an ‘effects return’, and a ‘power amp in’, which is correct to use?
I recently encountered this scenario with an Acoustic bass amp. I chose the ‘effects return’, and the volume seemed very low. Had to boost the amp’s volume quite a bit (almost dimed) to get a usable volume.
Anyone else encounter this before?
 
When running a Noble through a house rig, and there’s both an ‘effects return’, and a ‘power amp in’, which is correct to use?
I recently encountered this scenario with an Acoustic bass amp. I chose the ‘effects return’, and the volume seemed very low. Had to boost the amp’s volume quite a bit (almost dimed) to get a usable volume.
Anyone else encounter this before?
Some, if not most, amplifier effects loop sends and expects a line level signal instead of instrument level. If it happens again just try the power amp in and see if it makes a difference. Did you use the ts output jack or the xlr to send the signal to the amp? If you used the ts, did you turn the volume to max?
 
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