If you run the 1/4" line out, you should be able to add the appropriate amount of gain.
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Noble Amps Preamp
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Anyone here doing dry/wet parallel recording using the Noble to produce a great Dry signal ?
How do you split your signal ?
I am torn between using a splitter in my pedalboard and have the Dry and Wet ouptuts into the console, or use split the signal in the console and a go back to my effects using a reamp box as such : Bass > Noble > Console > Fx > console.
Any opinion ?
How do you split your signal ?
I am torn between using a splitter in my pedalboard and have the Dry and Wet ouptuts into the console, or use split the signal in the console and a go back to my effects using a reamp box as such : Bass > Noble > Console > Fx > console.
Any opinion ?
Depending on the distance to the console, I would expect some latency. Not a lot... just a little due to the cables not being lossless etc.
On a side note, what effects to you want to run that aren't going to the house? (Just curious)
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Thx for your reply. It will be mainly at home, so the console will be close.
In the end, I would like one track through the Noble, and one track with my other effects :
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/the-best-of-everything-pedalboard.1617706/page-4#post-28464591
Both signals are going to the console in the end.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why not take the XLR out of the noble into the console (for your dry signal), then take the 1/4" out of the Noble into your FX and use some kind of simple passive DI to go into the other console input? My 2¢.
Or simpler still, just run the one dry signal from the XLR into your "console" and apply whatever effects you want to experiment with in post? For creating songs, you're parking possibilities into a corner by baking in tones that can't be undone.
It's easy to duplicate the one dry signal in your DAW and blend it with the other channel getting EQs/effects applied to it in post.
This is the most versatile setting for Noble providing infinite possibilities in post:
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That would work perfectly.
I originally did not want to do this because it means having my effects after the preamp. That’s totally fine for the modulation effects and time based effects that are traditionally in effects loops in between the preamp and the power amp, but I am not sure if I am happy to have the compressor and the drive after the preamp.
I ‘ll need to try, but that would be a very easy way to do it ! Thanks for your input, very useful.
Alternately, you could put a $20 ABY box in the front of your signal chain - Run 1 to the pedalboard and the other to your effects chain.
I used the ts output jack to send a signal to the amp. I usually have the volume on the Noble around 10:00-11:00. I think I had to boost it up to around 2:00. Volume on amp was turned up to around 80%. Was at around 50% from previous band. Got a usable signal, but at home 10:00-11:00 is plenty while using effects return. My amp does not have a ‘power amp in’ jack, though.
I was able to get a usable signal, just with more volume boost from both the Noble & house amp. I had never encountered a ‘power amp in’ jack, though. Normally only ‘effects return’. Wasn’t sure if one is preferred, if both are present. Also, I did not try the the ‘power amp in’ jack, as it is uncharted territory for me. Didn’t want to risk something I shouldn’t be doing (just in case).
That’s the same thing.
Your typical amp head is composed of both a preamp and a power amp. The preamp pre amplifies the signal to line level, the power amp amplifies it for the cabinet.
- Your instrument signal goes in the preamp in or usually said the “input”.
- When the signal goes out of the preamp, you can insert an effect using the “send” output, also called the “preamp out”.
- Once you’re done with your effects, you plug your signal back to your head into the “return” jack or “Power amp IN” to go in the power amp section of your head.
I made this diagram (sorry if some words are in French) but it may help you visualize how a head is built. ("Préampli" means preamp, and "sortie baffle” means Cab output as you can guess)
Absolutely, it would work. I have a DESS DY-1, a small buffer that also splits the signal. Very useful. I am just unsure about where to put the Noble in my chain. It is now at the very end, which I find convenient. But I can’t have both a dry and a wet signal if it is last. I would like to know how touring bassists that only use parallel processing do.
Why did I read this thread? It just cost me $1800 for a Noble Preamp and a Cali76 compressor!
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I'm a long-time Noble user. I mainly use it at church and the sound guys really like it. Drunk with enthusiasm for more gear I bought a Cali 76 compressor and a Broughton Hi / low pass filter. I tried a little bit and did not gain anything with these extra purchases, so I'm willing to see the compressor and filter. PM me if interested. I hope it's ok to post this here...
I tried a Cali and could take it or leave it. Too much bother for too little gain. The HPF, on the other hand, brings utility solely upon requirements of a boomy room and bring terrific benefits. On the other hand, the FOH sound person should be taking care of compression and high pass filtering if necessary. Often you, the bass player, can't tell a whiff of sonic difference for those effects when standing on stage and knowing what the audience is hearing way out front in context of the band mix. Where the sound person cannot help is the tube-y magic of the Noble preamp. So I'd say you made the right call....
Thanks! I was expecting the Cali76 to add some kind of magic to my tone, but I did not experience that. Could be that I did not spend enough time with it or study compression enough. Plus, it always seemed too loud to me and I was not sure what to do about that. The Noble on the other hand: super simple controls; hard to get it wrong.
I *liked* what Cali offered. I don't trust myself adding effects on the stage when I can't hear the band mix from out in the audience. Great in the bedroom but hard to know for sure unless you're out there mixing the sound yourself. It's like the tail wagging the dog. I'd rather focus on playing the bass and let the sound professional deal with what I can't hear anyway.
