Not tolerated as a musician

[Bassique]

Playing lame music with ******** for good money? Pass.

I would do that, atleast for few gigs...then buy new gear with that money and quit

 

[Tom Howland]

Money gigs a re a tough call. We have all done them. It's a different mind-set. Hell if the money is right I'll play Sloop John B all night long.
Bottom line for me, If you can't have fun playing.....don't play.

 

[Bassbeater]

I personally have chosen in the past to play music that I did not like with people I preferred to avoid in order to pay the bills. It was easy to motivate myself when I compared it to an office job that would ruin my chops and give me cubicle anxiety.

 

[MDBass]

I would do that, atleast for few gigs...then buy new gear with that money and quit

There are exceptions to every rule...

Each gig pays $1k? Yeah, I'd stick around for a bit too.

Each gig pays $200? Nope.

 

[Fretless370]

Is the money worth it?....

 

[Hand slap]

This is strictly a rhetorical question, but what do you do with yourself when involved with musicians who aren't interested in stretching their abilities? I got dressed down tonight for suggesting the drummer withfrain from a 4/4 rock beat over the top of a "yacht rock" ballad. Got downright hateful about it. Of course theres more to the story, and I don't feel like vomiting it all out here tonight...

The only question for me is do I stick to it and play the gigs (they stay booked regularly), or do I go out and have fun playing with guys who work less often but play with passion and spontenaity and have some real fun?

Like I said, rhetorical, but wondering if others hold their nose and collect the steady work?

For me, it is never a perfect scenario, not sure about others out there. IMO, take the good with the bad.

 

[bassbrad]

As a bass player you need both a "money" gig and a fun gig, rarely are you lucky enough to have both in the same situation.
Money gigs you show up do what is needed and bank the experience and the cash. For me that is a Western Swing, C&W and the occasional corp or wedding gig. It is good to have a basic gig to remember core values plus those are all that pay worth loading, going playing and the after gig.
Fun gigs are where i can be creative, be the songwriter, soloist and let it all hang free.

 

[DirtDog]

I understand Slipknot started out as a yacht rock group, but there were too many loose ends and they couldn't figure out how to tie everything together.

Even the best guitar reefs couldn’t anchor them; but then, I never liked the cut of their jib.

 

[Mantis Tobaggan]

This is strictly a rhetorical question, but what do you do with yourself when involved with musicians who aren't interested in stretching their abilities? I got dressed down tonight for suggesting the drummer withfrain from a 4/4 rock beat over the top of a "yacht rock" ballad. Got downright hateful about it. Of course theres more to the story, and I don't feel like vomiting it all out here tonight...

The only question for me is do I stick to it and play the gigs (they stay booked regularly), or do I go out and have fun playing with guys who work less often but play with passion and spontenaity and have some real fun?

Like I said, rhetorical, but wondering if others hold their nose and collect the steady work?

Yacht Rock requires maximum musical talent so no you were not in the wrong. And no I am not kidding.

 

[whero]

When I heard Yacht Rock (or should that be Yacht Rachk?) I immediately thought of Southern Cross by CSN.

Looking at the list @derrico1 linked to, I realise I have been in bands that played a lot of this kind of stuff, often doing the birthday/wedding party circuit, even though I don't much like the genre. But I did it for two reasons: it helped payed the bills, and the other band members were really nice guys and, even though I was an outsider in their world, they were a lot of fun to be around and went out of their way to make me feel like family. In fact, the guitarist is still a great friend of mine, more than 30 years after we last played together.

So go back to @dreamadream99's post back on page 1 of the thread. The three reasons to be in a band are:

1. You're making good money,
2. You're making good music,
3. You're with good people.

If you're 3 for 3 then rejoice, for these are the days great memories are made of. My rule is that any 2 out of 3 is enough. The day I get home from a practice or gig and realise I'm down to 1, I start looking for my next project.

 

[getrhythm]

... involved with musicians who aren't interested in stretching their abilities? I got dressed down tonight for suggesting the drummer withfrain from a 4/4 rock beat over the top of a "yacht rock" ballad. Got downright hateful about it.

So...your bandmates didn't like your suggested re-arrangement of an intro and now their abilities are inadequate and your panties are all in a twist?
I say do them a favor and quit.

 

[HotelX]

Never had issues getting gigs, packing the house, or winning music awards. Experience '99-present.

Well you are the man. Congrats. What band?

 

[obimark]

"Moonlight feels right"- Sorry but isn't most Yacht Rock in 4/4?

 

[AB Nate]

This is strictly a rhetorical question, but what do you do with yourself when involved with musicians who aren't interested in stretching their abilities? I got dressed down tonight for suggesting the drummer withfrain from a 4/4 rock beat over the top of a "yacht rock" ballad. Got downright hateful about it. Of course theres more to the story, and I don't feel like vomiting it all out here tonight...

The only question for me is do I stick to it and play the gigs (they stay booked regularly), or do I go out and have fun playing with guys who work less often but play with passion and spontenaity and have some real fun?

Like I said, rhetorical, but wondering if others hold their nose and collect the steady work?

As a guy who has never made money as this thing.... I say do what feels right. If you need the cash though, that's a factor I've never considered.

My day job has sponsored my addiction but at the same time held me back from achieving more. Personally I have no desire to be OBLIGATED to play covers in a local watering hole every weekend. I like writing and playing what I feel passionate about. If that means it stays in the basement so be it.... I still have dreams though and Im coming to a point again where Im gonna start chasing them. I've given my "career" a retirement date about 3 years from now and maybe then I will need the cash and might HAVE to be a "working" musician.

I think what ever floats your boat. Chase dreams.

 

[Mvilmany]

If a drummer ever 'dresses me down' it will be the last gig he plays with me. Musicians who can't accept creative input eventually end up being a solo act.
We had a drummer a while back that was problematic. He couldn't play an ending the same way twice and when he botched an ending he just shrugged his shoulders and gave us a goofy grin like, "oh well". On his last night with us he deliberately over played a fill at a specific part of a song, one of my songs, where I'd asked him to drive the phrase with the floor tom simulating a heart beat. I'd made this request numerous times as we were working up the song, and after we'd played it a a few gigs, always emphasizing courteously that I'd been asking this of him since I'd introduced the song to the band. On the last night he worked with us we got to that phrase in the tune and he went all Keith Moon on it and sabotaged the song. When the gig was over I left without saying a word to him. The next morning we fired him. I had another drummer ready to go weeks ahead of this since I knew
we had to get rid of him. But it was just a matter of letting him pull the pin on his own band grenade. And the guy was actually shocked when our BL told him he was fired. He thought he was doing a great job.
There is a huge difference between "a guy that owns a set of drums" and a "drummer".

Ooooh... a Real “Fire the Drummer” post!!!

 

[njones89]

I say learn to swim.

 

[MrLenny1]

I would do a little of both until the Threshold hits.

 

[Davesdamnbass]

Is this band your bread and butter? If not. Screw the drama. Find another gig and move on. I did it for a living. I went from just bass player, to band dad, to bailbondsman. To marriage counselor. To manager. I got tired of it. The one thing i loved most tunred into something i hated with a passion. Now im playing again. I doubt ill ever join a band again. Ill do some fill in here and there. For the most part. I pull down and album and just jam. I love it again. Tonight i will be jamming to early Zeppelin! Without all the drama.

 

[TheReceder]

If this is repetitively redundant I apologize... but since this was a rhetorical question why are so many people answering?

 

[BuffaloBill]

I got dressed down tonight for suggesting the drummer withfrain from a 4/4 rock beat over the top of a "yacht rock" ballad. Got downright hateful about it.QUOTE]withfrain

I can't find the meaning of withfrain, seems to be the single word that set him off.
Must have been bad feelings before that was said too.