For sure. My FR800s are not exactly quiet, but I get the feeling the cabs have a lot more to give out than the 600W amps put into them.
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For sure. My FR800s are not exactly quiet, but I get the feeling the cabs have a lot more to give out than the 600W amps put into them.
I put my rig (Verellen Meatsmoke and retro 610) on top of an IKEA shelf like this the other day.
The goal was to get it closer to ear level as well as providing some storage space for pedals and cables. The shelf is 40 cm high, so the height is near perfect, but it seems I lost all mids in the process. Kind of a downer, since the rig is quite mid scooped to begin with. I added my Empress EQ and boosted the mids, full mid boost on the amp and Stingray as well, but still doesn't cut through.
The goal was to get it closer to ear level as well as providing some storage space for pedals and cables. The shelf is 40 cm high, so the height is near perfect, but it seems I lost all mids in the process. Kind of a downer, since the rig is quite mid scooped to begin with. I added my Empress EQ and boosted the mids, full mid boost on the amp and Stingray as well, but still doesn't cut through.
Hm. Was the open side towards you? If so (here it comes, some uninformed but well-meaning ectoproctolalia), some low(est) mid reinforcement may have been lost due to the lack of extension of the baffle down to the floor; also, the open shelf probably caused some internal reflections and cancellation; (again, what follows assumes you did place the shelf the way the pic shows, towards the audience/band/yourself: ) next time try it with the back panel turned to the front and see if it makes a difference.
Other than the above, having the 610 closer to your ears might have changed the balance of hi mids/lo highs to mid/low mids and made it subjectively more scooped. Dunno.
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Yes, the opening is front as pictured. I'm thinking the material the shelf is made from may also contribute - it is, after all, the cardboard like material most cheap furniture is made from. Very, very dead. I think I'll just try removing the shelf and maybe plug the port to tighten it up. IIRC, @alexclaber recommended that a while back.
You could also try it with the open side down (if you have some, put a piece of foam between the cab & the box).
Having myself a little shootout this weekend:
I'd love to hear how that prodigy sounds with the 210
Pbassmanca
In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
Your shootouts are awesome man! How about some high quality audio/video recordings to go along with it....?
Sound-wise, the decision was unanimous:
Pros: cheapest.
Cons: biggest/heaviest.
Pros: cheapest.
Cons: biggest/heaviest.
I doubt I will bridge my power amp. I did ask our sound guy about bridging that QSC amp for my bass rig a few years back he said."Yea it's a great idea if you want to make blowing your speakers easier." I have parked the idea ever since and not something I forsee doing.
I know it's lame, but I've run out of weekend and I'm not setup to record right now in any event. Also, I'm not very good, so I don't know how much value there would be in the demo anyway. Sorry!How about some high quality audio/video recordings to go along with it....?
A bridged amp needs to be respected. A crossed wire or stray ground will cause serious damage in a hurry. People running them should have a solid understanding of what's going on and what to do to avoid disaster
Lol, the amp is bigger then the cab?
I remember @alexclaber suggested to plug the hybrid resonator in the SIX10 to get more pronounced mids, anyone try this with good results? It should also help the drivers break up earlier for that extra growl. I hope to test that at rehearsal tonight.
Also, possibly a daft question, but how much of a beating will the SIX10 take before speakers start blowing? With my Verellen Meatsmoke, I'm capable of reaching unpleasant volumes (that's an understatement if I ever saw one), even clean, but I'm always worried that I'll damage the cab. Old habit, I guess. IIRC, overdrive is harder on the speakers than clean sounds, but I find it hard to accept that the cab will tolerate the insane volume the Verellen is capable of. With the gain at 2 o'clock and master at noon-ish, I can drown out a drummer and two guitarists. Everything in the room rattles and I imagine structural damage to the concrete walls if I turn it up further.
TLDR; Can I blow up my SIX10 with 300 watts of overdriven tube power?
Also, possibly a daft question, but how much of a beating will the SIX10 take before speakers start blowing? With my Verellen Meatsmoke, I'm capable of reaching unpleasant volumes (that's an understatement if I ever saw one), even clean, but I'm always worried that I'll damage the cab. Old habit, I guess. IIRC, overdrive is harder on the speakers than clean sounds, but I find it hard to accept that the cab will tolerate the insane volume the Verellen is capable of. With the gain at 2 o'clock and master at noon-ish, I can drown out a drummer and two guitarists. Everything in the room rattles and I imagine structural damage to the concrete walls if I turn it up further.
TLDR; Can I blow up my SIX10 with 300 watts of overdriven tube power?
alexclaber
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I highly doubt it. Give it a try in the name of science! Stand far away and wear good ear plugs!
In that case, I'm less worried. Thanks!I highly doubt it. Give it a try in the name of science! Stand far away and wear good ear plugs!
Just make sure you have someone next to you to hold your beer, when you say "hold my beer."
