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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

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I already have a pair of BB2s and a One10, which means I have no need for any more speaker cabinets. Probably ever. But seeing everyone ordering all these cool new toys this past week before the price increase still makes me feel like I missed out and should have bought another one "just because".

I'll just have to live vicariously through you guys. Looking forward to seeing all the NCD posts when your new cabinets start arriving. :D
 
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beatlebass64 said:
I grabbed a Super Compact in January (my first and only cab) at $799, now starts at $867. I think the cloth upgrade increased a bit too.

Not as bad as I was expecting. Still an incredible deal for such a high end boutique cab.

Congrats to everyone who purchased before the increase for your savings!
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Now I don't feel quite as bad for not ordering an SC. That's not a terrible increase. And the One10 barely went up at all.
 
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monsterthompson said:
What? You'll have to speak up.
Ran some iTunes library choices through here. The new one (on the right) seems a hair "louder" but I think it has to do with room positioning and crossover settings. Once broken in, and at gigging volume it'll be quite balanced. It's definitely a change from the home hifi speakers. There is plenty of low end and punch. The Behringer has a 100 Hz crossover/HPF, and it's kinda nice for not pumping deep lows later in the evening. The neighbors like that :)

Tuning the BB2 crossovers certainly makes a real, and useable difference. All the way up is a bit much. It's worth exploring settings.

Next, I've gotta rack the Behringer, and make some tough decisions about flipping amps. For as much as I play, this much gear is ridiculous. Nice, but ridiculous. I was considering going to just a DG AO Ultra pedal. However the Behringer fan is a little loud to run for home playing and practice. It's not awful, and it blows tons of air.
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Monster, if you sell off some gear maybe you can get a bigger Pedaltrain. That one's got stuff hangin' off the ends dude!
 
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I've just looked at the spec's of different BF cabs and so I am quite surprised that according to the description the frequency range of One10 and Two10 starts at 30 Hz whereas both SM and SC start at 37 Hz. Does it mean that their Two10 and One10 are capable to go lower than SM and SC? If so that means that I'd stick with the first two cause they have more justice to B string which is 31 Hz. Thoughts?
 
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In my experience having your signal hit at 30, even 37 Hz causes a lot of boom. I've recently started using my HPF all the time between 50-60 Hz and it tightens it right up and is still plenty bassy.
I'm sure both cabs can produce more sub lows than most people would want.

My reference is a d800 set at 30 hz
 
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anton72 said:
I've just looked at the spec's of different BF cabs and so I am quite surprised that according to the description the frequency range of One10 and Two10 starts at 30 Hz whereas both SM and SC start at 37 Hz. Does it mean that their Two10 and One10 are capable to go lower than SM and SC? If so that means that I'd stick with the first two cause they have more justice to B string which is 31 Hz. Thoughts?
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The Four10 lists bottom range to 25hz. I don't think any of them lack low end. Used the Four10 last night with a five string, Fender Super Bassman head, with Tech 21 VT DI as a processor. The B string was liquid gold.

BB2 and SM do not lack low end, by any means. The main difference to my ear is that SM and BB2 are clear and flat in the mids; good or bad you'll get the truth from those mids. 10's are still mid-present, maybe even more mid-focused, but the mid is warm with rounded edges.

Like Amajew I sometimes run a HPF when a room is naturally boomy. If I am using one, I don't really pay attention to exactly where it's set -- it's not incrementally marked-- but dial it according to what I am hearing. You really don't need the fundamental down that low, your ear fills it in for you. I think you might possibly get a little more "boom" out of an SM or BB2, if "boom" is defined as more low than you really want/need. Of course that's what EQ, and HPF's are for.
 
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anton72 said:
I've just looked at the spec's of different BF cabs and so I am quite surprised that according to the description the frequency range of One10 and Two10 starts at 30 Hz whereas both SM and SC start at 37 Hz. Does it mean that their Two10 and One10 are capable to go lower than SM and SC? If so that means that I'd stick with the first two cause they have more justice to B string which is 31 Hz. Thoughts?
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I don't think it makes much difference, and frequencies that low mostly add to boominess (B may be 31Hz but you're not really hearing much of the fundamental in reality)... in fact I tend to use an HPF anywhere between 35 to 50Hz, sometimes higher. And I like fat bass.
 
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berklee46 said:
Just curious, what HPF do you guys use?
Seems like Fdek and Broughton are the big names, but I'm looking simplicity too.
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The Broughton one is as simple as it gets (for an adjustable one). The SFX Thumpinator is good but fixed at 30Hz. I like to be able to alter that. I used the Thumpinator and was thinking of the Broughton one when I got the Mesa D800+ which already has an adjustable HPF, and very good it is!
 
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chris_b said:
Bass is overrated. To sound good you need low mids.
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Agree, and I was quite happy with this approach until I got my first 5er. If fundamental frequency of low B is 31 Hz and you eithwer cutting it with HPF or your cab is limited to higher than 31 Hz, what will you hear, harmonics? Okay but harmonics will not replace "the body" of the note, correct me if I am wrong. I don't really play lower than low D on B string but still want to figure out if I am limited by my SM in this case ot not.
 
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Fun Size Nick said:
I use an Aguilar TH350 head,
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I also used my TH350 on my latest gig played through SM and I did not like the result. It does not reproduce the pitch of the low notes but adds some saturation. Might be not SM limitation but TH350 though. I really love TH350 voicing in lower volume settings but in louder gigs my Quilter BB800 leaves no chances to TH350.
 
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anton72 said:
Okay but harmonics will not replace "the body" of the note, correct me if I am wrong. I don't really play lower than low D on B string but still want to figure out if I am limited by my SM in this case ot not.
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An Ampeg SVT and 810 sounds fantastic at any volume, especially with a 5 string bass. The 810 doesn't go below 40hz. So how does a 5 string bass sound so good?

As some guys are posting, they are using HPF's to cut their sound at 50hz and 60 hz. That's not even low enough for the fundamental of the E string.

As long as you are generating the harmonics and overtones of the note you don't actually need the fundamental to get a fantastic bass sound.
 
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