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I'm mostly playing my PB70 MIJ now (with upgraded pups now) but I own two jazz basses which fit different roles.
To play I'm a church with a jazz bass put both pups at 100% and zero the tone control.
It should be fine enough.
To play I'm a church with a jazz bass put both pups at 100% and zero the tone control.
It should be fine enough.
This will help the OP.
Here's a question to those who have suggested the Squier CV:
How does the CV 70s P stack up against the coveted CV 60s P that is now discontinued? I played a friend's CV 60 and was shocked by how floored I was (I was kind of in rough shape for a few minutes). But, the 60s are prooving extremely difficult to find, even in Fiesta Red let alone Sonic Blue. Does the neck feel as awesome? Sound just as good?
Here's a question to those who have suggested the Squier CV:
How does the CV 70s P stack up against the coveted CV 60s P that is now discontinued? I played a friend's CV 60 and was shocked by how floored I was (I was kind of in rough shape for a few minutes). But, the 60s are prooving extremely difficult to find, even in Fiesta Red let alone Sonic Blue. Does the neck feel as awesome? Sound just as good?
Keep the Geddy and find a Squier Matt Freeman. Such a super bass for the money.
Funnily enough, there IS a Squier MF on my local Craigslist, but I've tried those things.
I dislike the neck a lot. Too much gloss and feels like the baseball bat.
I've tried the CVs before they got discontinued, especially the Sonic Blue one.
I recall I really liked those basses. This was when I didn't know much about basses and I was just noodling around on it. I saw the price tag and was like "A FENDER FOR THIS MUCH?!" Saw the headstock and it said "Squier", but that didn't deter me from liking the bass still.
One of the best Squiers ever made...just a shame they stopped making them. I'm not a fan of the 70s ones though. Necks feel too thin.
Best thing about the Precision (for me) is the simplicity-one volume/tone knob with one Pickup. Hand placement (towards the neck, over the pickup, towards the bridge) and depending on how hard you "dig" really has a large impact on the overall tone compared to other basses in my opinion.
I love Precisions, I like Stingrays but otherwise I am not really a fan of dual pickup basses, or basses that have a lot of features/knobs (i.e. Jaguar) because I always find myself noodling around trying to find a decent tone instead of just playing. The problem for me is when I pickup a 3 band 'Ray for example, I sit and mess around with the knobs unlike a Precision where it is more of a "plug and play" philosophy. Same concept with a Jazz Bass, personally they sound too "thin" to my ear but they are a lot more versatile than a Precision.
I would never call a Precision a "one-trick pony": you can play with finger/pick to have a different tone, roll the tone knob back, play with Flats/Rounds, their are a lot of combinations that make the bass diverse. I personally love Rock/Punk/Metal (anything from Nirvana, Blink 182, Descendants, Iron Maiden, Sublime, Parkway Drive, etc.) and a Precision paired with fresh Rounds and a pick is going to sound a lot different than stuff from the 50's/60's that were paired with flats (i.e. Motown).
As others have said-I don't think you can go wrong with both a Precision and Jazz, the Geddy is a really nice bass and I think you would regret parting with it in the future.
I love Precisions, I like Stingrays but otherwise I am not really a fan of dual pickup basses, or basses that have a lot of features/knobs (i.e. Jaguar) because I always find myself noodling around trying to find a decent tone instead of just playing. The problem for me is when I pickup a 3 band 'Ray for example, I sit and mess around with the knobs unlike a Precision where it is more of a "plug and play" philosophy. Same concept with a Jazz Bass, personally they sound too "thin" to my ear but they are a lot more versatile than a Precision.
I would never call a Precision a "one-trick pony": you can play with finger/pick to have a different tone, roll the tone knob back, play with Flats/Rounds, their are a lot of combinations that make the bass diverse. I personally love Rock/Punk/Metal (anything from Nirvana, Blink 182, Descendants, Iron Maiden, Sublime, Parkway Drive, etc.) and a Precision paired with fresh Rounds and a pick is going to sound a lot different than stuff from the 50's/60's that were paired with flats (i.e. Motown).
As others have said-I don't think you can go wrong with both a Precision and Jazz, the Geddy is a really nice bass and I think you would regret parting with it in the future.
I would snag one of those if I had the chance. They're just so damn hard to find. I would even buy just the neck and stick it on a VM PJ body... Maybe swap out pups for the Man O' War P/Js.... Upgrade the tuners and bridge... This is why I'm broke.
Mine is a 60s P in Fiesta red. It is a really great P. I bought it as new old stock in December of 2015. It is a 2010. I have gigged it a time or two, but mostly it stays in my practice space.
As I said in a previous post in this thread, I think it is every bit as good as the 2012 MIM P I had. I have no experience with the 70s CV.
Why would he need a piano? This is a PBass thread!!!!I recommend to you a Steinberger.
We have too many P-Bass threads. You need a Steinberger.
You need both dude I was in the same place you are a few months ago.. diff tools for the job either way these are good choices
either way these are good choices
Keep the GLJB, you'll regret selling it. You need both a P and a J. I go back and forth between my P and my J all the time. Maybe I'm fickle, or maybe I just like both sounds. Heck, I don't know.
Slap the Geddy neck on one of your P's...P + J neck =
I have 3-P's... never miss the J's I've had... love my GL neck, so much, I put it on a P body!
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I love the way others sound on a J, and I love how it sounds at home, but on stage, the P kills it every time.
Lately I have been using extended range basses, preferring my peavey cirrus over all else, but when I'm on a gig for someone else, I bring the P and the active 5 string J. If I dont need the B string, the P wins. And it hasn't disappointed yet.
Interestingly, my last gig I brought the J because I needed the range and there were enough cover tunes that needed that J sound or slap. At home all week I worked with it to dial in the closest tone to a P bass I could. And at home, I got close enough to think it would work on the gig for the motown tunes. Nope. It was an exercise in frustration. The tunes are so close together that I couldn't switch h during a set, so I just kept it J. Controls flat and panned middle. That worked much better in the mix than trying to cop a P tone. The mix called my bluff. I started thinking I should just put a Hipshot on the P and how many drunk people dancing would realize the "Uptown Funk" is played up an octave (I only use a compressor pedal on electric gigs)...
Lately I have been using extended range basses, preferring my peavey cirrus over all else, but when I'm on a gig for someone else, I bring the P and the active 5 string J. If I dont need the B string, the P wins. And it hasn't disappointed yet.
Interestingly, my last gig I brought the J because I needed the range and there were enough cover tunes that needed that J sound or slap. At home all week I worked with it to dial in the closest tone to a P bass I could. And at home, I got close enough to think it would work on the gig for the motown tunes. Nope. It was an exercise in frustration. The tunes are so close together that I couldn't switch h during a set, so I just kept it J. Controls flat and panned middle. That worked much better in the mix than trying to cop a P tone. The mix called my bluff. I started thinking I should just put a Hipshot on the P and how many drunk people dancing would realize the "Uptown Funk" is played up an octave (I only use a compressor pedal on electric gigs)...
Ok. You've got a P that I guess could be played in Church.
So, really you need to go down to 1 bass to save for your trip - and you'd like it to be a better P?
Did I get it right?
Either way, you need to do what you want or need to do. But I can get that it can be hard to part with some items.
Good luck.
So, really you need to go down to 1 bass to save for your trip - and you'd like it to be a better P?
Did I get it right?
Either way, you need to do what you want or need to do. But I can get that it can be hard to part with some items.
Good luck.
In addition to the tone, I find the fatter neck encourages me to write more for the song as well. Did you ever get a Moollon P?
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Thanks for this thread @MovingPitchers . I play in church too and have been gassing for a J lately. After reading this thread I am re-thinking that.
I had a Squier James Johnson Jazz that was a nice bass but I almost never played it. Mostly because of the thinner neck.
Mostly I play an American Standard P with the band and it does everything I need. I also have a MIM 50's P with a nice fat neck and smaller frets that I like but the MIA is more versatile.
I have gotten away from effects. I come out of my amp into the house and discovered that my sound is pretty much the same in the house no matter what effects I use. The pedals change my sound on stage but not too much in the house. Right now it is bass into tuner, into amp, into house that is all I need. I still like my Zoom B3 but I use that mostly at home.
We have two sound guys one is great and the other not so great. Yup, his solution to almost anything is turn the bass down. He also doesn't hear well. A sound guy that doesn't hear well, YIKES. Mostly he has his face a few inches from the IPAD he uses to control our sound.
I wish I still had the Jazz. I am getting the parts and tools together to build a Jazz bass with a Precision neck. That should work for me. I am enjoying the search for the perfect body and neck plus I am looking forward to the building process.
I also need to change out the pots on my MIM and might put an orange drop on the bass while I am at it. The tone on the bass has sounded kind of muffled lately. Don't know if it is my ears or the bass. At some point I might put an American Standard bridge on that bass and change the tuners too. If I do change the pickup I will stick with a vintage style 50's pickup.
I had a Squier James Johnson Jazz that was a nice bass but I almost never played it. Mostly because of the thinner neck.
Mostly I play an American Standard P with the band and it does everything I need. I also have a MIM 50's P with a nice fat neck and smaller frets that I like but the MIA is more versatile.
I have gotten away from effects. I come out of my amp into the house and discovered that my sound is pretty much the same in the house no matter what effects I use. The pedals change my sound on stage but not too much in the house. Right now it is bass into tuner, into amp, into house that is all I need. I still like my Zoom B3 but I use that mostly at home.
We have two sound guys one is great and the other not so great. Yup, his solution to almost anything is turn the bass down. He also doesn't hear well. A sound guy that doesn't hear well, YIKES. Mostly he has his face a few inches from the IPAD he uses to control our sound.
I wish I still had the Jazz. I am getting the parts and tools together to build a Jazz bass with a Precision neck. That should work for me. I am enjoying the search for the perfect body and neck plus I am looking forward to the building process.
I also need to change out the pots on my MIM and might put an orange drop on the bass while I am at it. The tone on the bass has sounded kind of muffled lately. Don't know if it is my ears or the bass. At some point I might put an American Standard bridge on that bass and change the tuners too. If I do change the pickup I will stick with a vintage style 50's pickup.
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