Pop Punk Combo Amp

[jasonrp]

So GK Mb210 will be good? Also i always thougth that pop/punk tone = Ampeg

I'm not a big fan of 10's. I've had a few 410's and 2 112's and I prefer the 12s with a head. I liked being able too add or remove a cab from the setup

It is true that watts do not equal volume BUT with the way that many combo amps are, you can use the watt rating as a general guide for what your volume will be, IMO. My reasoning is that many in the 200/300 watt range are single speakers or a 210 setup while the 500's tend to be 410 or 212.

I do agree with Suededoesit about going to a store and trying a few out. Maybe put a mb200 head on the 410 then try out the GK 212 combo and see which you like better and which seems louder to you. In the end your own opinion is the only one that will matter.

 

[Suink141]

Ok, that's 900 EURO, that's about $950 American. For example, my go to source is Musiciansfriend.com. The Rumble 500 head is $400 and the Rumble 4x10 cab is $400 as well. That's $800 American and now they're running a 15% off special with any purchase over $500. So that rig here, would run you about $680. That's also (usually) free shipping and no sales tax. But there could possibly be some shipping fees with that cab. I'm not sure.

Now in terms of how this would "translate" in Spain? I have no idea of knowing that. However, it would appear that you'd be well within your price range.

Well that rig would cost me 1087€, too much for what i would like to spend.

 

[suededoesit]

Well that rig would cost me 1087€, too much for what i would like to spend.

Sorry, I can only lead the horse to water...

 

[spaz21387]

Id go ampeg but not a combo. go 4x10 and atleast 500 watts

 

[matante]

I agree that a 1 x 15 will probably struggle to keep up with a full rock band at medium volume.

a 2 x 10 is a bit better, but in my experience, with full drum and guitars, a 4 x 10 works best. Or you could look at the GK MB212II suggested by @10cc

the typical beginner's mistake (which I have made, more than once!) is to buy an amp that is on the small side for your needs.... and then 3 / 6 / 12 months later, as if by magic, pow! a blown speaker. and then another... and so on...

A single 15" speaker has more surface area than two 10" speakers.

 

[CL400Peavey]

A single 15" speaker has more surface area than two 10" speakers.

Which by itself tells you nothing about output.

 

[MDBass]

Guys ive a question. All of you recomend a head and 4x10, so, what the purpose of the 1x15 or 2x10 cabs and even the combo amps 500w? I dont know why the sell them if its seems like they are useless

They're not at all useless, but using a combo bass amp for any kind of rock band is usually less than ideal.

The genre of music you're looking to play just happens to be LOUD.

 

[Linnin]

Ok in that case let me ask you, im from Spain and i will buy my rig at Thomann. With 900€ limit what would you recomend me?

Fender Rumble 500 to start with. Add a Fender Rumble 210 extension speaker cabinet when and if you need to later on.
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[MDBass]

Hi all! I want to buy an amp to play in a Pop Punk band and need help. Now im doubting between this 3 combo amps (Fender Rumble 500, Ampeg BA210v2, GK Mb210 II) because i want something light but powerful enought also. Wich one is better in terms of riching good Pop Punk sound but also durability... Im also open to hear more opinions about what i should buy.
Thanks

Don't buy a combo, you're not looking to play jazz or singer/songwriter gigs.

Pick a brand you like the sound of and go for a head with ~500 watts and either a 212 or 410 cab: you'll be all set.

I don't know how the used market is in your area but you get a lot more for your money that way; an older GK head and Ampeg cab is a tried and true combination. Plenty loud, super durable and pretty cheap.

 

[Bassnomer]

I second the Rumble amp suggestions. I just have a Rumble 200 (1x15) and I've played medium sized club gigs (metal) with PA support. I didn't have to crank it too high on stage either. If I was going to do that regularly, I may go with the 500 and maybe add an extension cab eventually.

 

[Remyd]

A single 15" speaker has more surface area than two 10" speakers.

But that doesn't correlate to anything without other reference. Cone area is important, but alone it tells you nothing - a 118 from the 80's isn't louder than a modern 210. The other factors are really the sticky wicket.

210 - 157 sqin
212 - 226
118 - 254
410 - 314
215 - 353
610 - 471
218 - 508

Not to mention the tonal implications of giant cones flapping around...

 

[Wesley Shines]

Personally I'd go with a TC Electronics combo amp, the tone print would let you get some overdrive and has a built in tuner. For the "pop punk" tone, you could really stick a Tech 21 VT Bass in front of almost any amp and it'd nail it. Really a cool pedal you should consider for the genre you're playing.

 

[Suink141]

I second the Rumble amp suggestions. I just have a Rumble 200 (1x15) and I've played medium sized club gigs (metal) with PA support. I didn't have to crank it too high on stage either. If I was going to do that regularly, I may go with the 500 and maybe add an extension cab eventually.

So confusing, some people say Rumble 500 will do ok and some people totally desaprove that

 

[MDBass]

So confusing, some people say Rumble 500 will do ok and some people totally desaprove that

That's because everyone has different definitions of "loud enough".

I actually use a Rumble combo myself for rehearsals with a loud rock band, and it works just fine if I push it to it's limits and stand directly in front of it in that small, well acoustically treated space we rehearse in.

There's also absolutely no way I'd ever take it to a gig with that band.

 

[Caleb Mills]

But that doesn't correlate to anything without other reference. Cone area is important, but alone it tells you nothing - a 118 from the 80's isn't louder than a modern 210. The other factors are really the sticky wicket.

210 - 157 sqin
212 - 226
118 - 254
410 - 314
215 - 353
610 - 471
218 - 508

Not to mention the tonal implications of giant cones flapping around...

Hahaha, "flapping around"...

So confusing, some people say Rumble 500 will do ok and some people totally desaprove that

Yeah, you're going to get a lot of varying opinions when you ask TB. The thing is, we can all give our input but ultimately you're going to have to pull the trigger. Whatever you decide will be good though, man! The main thing is that you'll have an amp to play through while you figure things out. The only real way to tell what you like and dislike is by playing. Just remember that you aren't locked in forever to whatever decision you make. There are tons of ways to buy, sell, and trade gear. Grab your first instinct (which to me kind of sounds like you're leaning toward a Fender Rumble 500?) and try it. If you don't like it or it doesn't quite do the trick with your band, sell it and try the next thing on your list. Simple. No worries. Have fun!

 

[MrCash]

OK, so here (UK), the Ampeg BA210v2 costs around £500.

for that price, you could get:

Ashdown MAG 4x 10 cabinet
Ashdown MAG410T 450W 4X10 Tweeter CAB 8OHM Evoiii CAB

Markbass Little Mark 250 bass head:
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... which would give you a decent size rig that will last you years to come. it's not light, portable, or fancy, but it's a lot of rig for the money. and that's new - look at used gear too.

But - I'm not sure where you live, so prices/available models may vary - do cost out some budget heads and cabs before you make a decision.

EDIT: I'm not necessarily saying get these exact ones.

I think that would be a little underpowered especially as those ashdown 410t deep cabs (ive sold one a few months back) while don't sound bad are not that loud. And only running approx half of 250w through it won't help either.

 

[Suink141]

Hahaha, "flapping around"...



Yeah, you're going to get a lot of varying opinions when you ask TB. The thing is, we can all give our input but ultimately you're going to have to pull the trigger. Whatever you decide will be good though, man! The main thing is that you'll have an amp to play through while you figure things out. The only real way to tell what you like and dislike is by playing. Just remember that you aren't locked in forever to whatever decision you make. there are tons of way to buy, sell, and trade gear. Grab your first instinct (which to me kind of sounds like you're leaning toward a Fender Rumble 500?) and try it. If you don't like it or it doesn't quite do the trick with your band, sell it and try the next thing on your list. Simple. No worries. Have fun!

Yeah man, thanks!

 

[Val Tremola]

They will all amplify your bass adequately for a small room but a head and cab or cabs will give you more flexibility. GK products have treated me well.

 

[Waltsdog]

Ok in that case let me ask you, im from Spain and i will buy my rig at Thomann. With 900€ limit what would you recomend me? What head and what 4x10 cab (or maybe other conf...)? I will evaluate the price (dont need to use all 900€ if its not necessary) and also the weight. Thanks

Again, this meets every one of your requirements. Under 900 euro from Thoman, loud light and easy to move. It's all you need for a first amp to play in a band, and will cover you in any room you'll be playing in that doesn't have PA support. : [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Everyone has their own opinion on amps as you can see from the million replies in this thread, once you've been playing with the band for a while you'll get a good idea of what you like and what you don't but you really can't go wrong with one of these to start with.

 

[Ben Noblit]

I second everyone saying don't get a combo. It MIGHT be enough, but if it isn't, then your only option is selling it and buying something. A amp head and a good cabinet gives you much more flexibility. Plus a head/cabinet setup almost always sounds better than a combo, combos usually have design compromises that trade sound for portability.