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Post something "pop"

Yes, started as a label. Progressed into a genre.

Motown, or the Motown sound, is a style of rhythm and blues music named after the record company Motown in Detroit, where teams of songwriters and musicians produced material for girl groups, boy bands, and solo singers during the 1960s and early 1970s.
It's R&B (well, the classic Motown stuff is at least). Because there is a certain, distinctive style that came out of Motown does not mean that Motown is a "genre". Philly International had a sound. That doesn't make Philly International a genre. Same for Stax, Sugar Hill, Studio One and any number of other labels/production houses.
 
The term "pop" music is a bit nebulous, so I get the confusion. I completed a master's degree in "popular music" studies and, in that context, "popular music" referred to pretty much anything that wasn't "folk" or "art music". So jazz would be considered "popular music". "Pop" is used by some to describe anything that follows the basic song form as we know it (verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge, etc.) but it is also often used to indicate a production and/or performance style which is viewed as being different from "rock" (this typically seems to mean "less abrasive" than rock).
Interesting comment! Would you say that part of the reason so much of this music ends up charting is because of that lack of abrasiveness? I can see where less abrasive music (read something more easy listening oriented) would be safer for a label to invest in because it might have offended fewer moms and dads.
 
It's R&B (well, the classic Motown stuff is at least). Because there is a certain, distinctive style that came out of Motown does not mean that Motown is a "genre". Philly International had a sound. That doesn't make Philly International a genre. Same for Stax, Sugar Hill, Studio One and any number of other labels/production houses.
Philly International was my major client when I was selling studio gear. Can confirm. There was a Philly sound, but it was all part of a bigger thing that included a whole bunch of other labels recording and (later) charting as R&B.
 
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Interesting comment! Would you say that part of the reason so much of this music ends up charting is because of that lack of abrasiveness? I can see where less abrasive music (read something more easy listening oriented) would be safer for a label to invest in because it might have offended fewer moms and dads.
Well, it does seem like a lot of people enjoy "softer" sounding music. If you look at the popularity of crooners in the 40s and the softer sounds of a lot of the more sappy, "wholesome" type of rock 'n' roll from the late '50s through the 60's, into "soft rock" and AOR/MOR, etc. it's clear that there is definitely a large market for the less abrasive side of rock/pop. The Red Hot Chili Peppers: that's a band that I never suspected would get airplay on mainstream radio (having heard their earlier material but then they record "Under The Bridge" and they're off to the races: something palatable to people who would not necessarily have been very receptive to "Jungle Man". :D
 
Well, it does seem like a lot of people enjoy "softer" sounding music. If you look at the popularity of crooners in the 40s and the softer sounds of a lot of the more sappy, "wholesome" type of rock 'n' roll from the late '50s through the 60's, into "soft rock" and AOR/MOR, etc. it's clear that there is definitely a large market for the less abrasive side of rock/pop. The Red Hot Chili Peppers: that's a band that I never suspected would get airplay on mainstream radio (having heard their earlier material but then they record "Under The Bridge" and they're off to the races: something palatable to people who would not necessarily have been very receptive to "Jungle Man". :D
Take a look at my band's mini playlist, posted above. It's almost all on the softer side. We have done, and will do, harder stuff too. But our audiences tend to appreciate this stuff more. They'd rather hear "Rikki" than "Black Dog," though someone's always going to scream and throw money at us when we play "Black Dog."
 
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Take a look at my band's mini playlist, posted above. It's almost all on the softer side. We have done, and will do, harder stuff too. But our audiences tend to appreciate this stuff more. They'd rather hear "Rikki" than "Black Dog," though someone's always going to scream and throw money at us when we play "Black Dog."
Yeah, it's funny - I like rhythmically hard music (be it funk, reggae, Afro-Cuban, what have you) but I tend to not like stuff that's aggressive in the higher registers. Screaming "rock" guitar, for example, is not really my cup of tea (though I do feel it has its place). I tend to prefer more lush sounds.
 
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"Valley Girl"
is a song by American musician Frank Zappa and his then-14-year-old daughter, Moon Zappa. The song appeared on Zappa's 1982 album Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch and was released as a single, becoming his sole Top 40 hit.


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POP SONG!!!................
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