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Pre/Power setups that KILL!!!

What's your poison?

  • Pre/Power setups ROCK!

    Votes: 181 69.9%

  • Head for me, thanks!

    Votes: 50 19.3%

  • I'll take my combos, any day...

    Votes: 11 4.2%

  • I'll plug into a carrot and rock the house!!

    Votes: 17 6.6%
  • Total voters
    259
#141
j.s.basuki said:
I feel Dem treble is to aggressive while the mid is too shy, I have to turn down the treble side many times, while Glock is warm although it is solidstate. The high frequency side of Glock is of very fine , smooth ,defined and uncoloured. You can hear every detail of your not transparently . That amp would be the very best for fretless playing where you can really hear the smooth singing of the fretless.
Slapping with Glock equally good as Demeter.
I bought my Bassart together with the drive cable which guarantee that all the signal out of your bass arrive to your pre completely [ it has a small pre in the cable]
I would say Glock makes the best bass system only if one can afford it.
If I have to choose among three , I 'll take Glock any time.
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Thanks; I appreciate the input.
 
#144
billys73 said:
Once I did a gig with a rented SVT. When I touched the mic, (and my strings) I got a shock that made me black out! Later on we discovered that the power cord to the SVT was frayed!

Does this count as a rig that kills?


:D

Seriously, usually it seems like you get a more audiophile power section with a separate power amp.
Big disclaimer: There are crappy power amps out
there ! As well as some bass amps with great, low distortion power sections.

It also seems to me the main companies like Crest, QSC, Crown etc.....have high end and low end lines that vary greatly in quality-and rightfully so it is reflected in the cost of the amp. Has anyone used a Bryston on the road? It's a standard amp in the studio; but I never see one in a bass rig.
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I've used a Bryston 3B (usually in the bridged mode, at 400 watts) for the past 21 years and have never had a problem with it. I've driven it so hard that the LEDs were constantly clipping for half a set, and all that happened was the Bryston got hot. They're the only Amplifier company with a twenty year warranty (their failure rate must be the lowest in the industry). The 3B has extremely tight bottom end (due to its exceptional damping). Most of the sound gear rental companies in my area use Bryston 4B's for their P.A. power requirements, and I've never heard of any problems with this type of use. They are heavy and have a high initial cost, but still playin' after 21 years and still kickin' major butt!! I know lots of Bass players that have gone through a number of amps in a shorter period of time (the cost is very reasonable considering the sound quality and longevity of this amp). Most think that Bryston is just a high-end audio amp, but don't realize that Bass players need lots of clean power........ and these amps deliver. :bassist: :bassist: :bassist: Rich
 
#148
Heh, I'll update my gear.


Rack #1:
Read Purity preamp and Stewart World 2.1. Warm sweet tubey goodness. Comparable to a Kern 777 I tried recently.


Rack #2:
SansAmp RBI preamp and Stewart World 2.1. I use this when I want a grittier and/or more aggressive tone. My "faux SVT" rig is this rack combined with the Bergantino NV610 cabinet.
 
#149
I recently upgraded my rig to an Alembic F1X and a Crest Pro 8200. The Alembic is warm, clean, and smooth, and its tone controls are very simple but very effective. The Crest has serious power, and is crystal clear and completely quiet. Speakers are next, either AccuGroove or Schroeder probably, though this amp/preamp gives my old Eden CX212's some major rumble.
 
#151
I just started another thread like this one... didn't even see it, being all 8 pages and all!

If I'm going to be running a Mesa Diesel 6x10 cab, 900 watts @ 4 ohms, about how many watts would be good for me to push through it? I don't need an amp just yet that will do that many watts stereo just yet, so 4 ohms bridged would be good.

I'm going to start out with an RBI, and then maybe add something with more cleanliness to it later on.
 
#152
Biker4Him said:
Thanks!

It sounded great being driven by my M-Pulse 600 (in my house) Live there was a big problem. When run up to stage volume, the cab sounded like poop. I thought the speakers were coming apart. Actually, it was the other problem. Not enough juice. So, a little gear swapping, and I ended up with the QSC 1602. (an no preamp) Already tons better in a live situation. !!
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I think this was my problem as well. My Mesa shortstack (2x10 and 1x15) was pulling 1000 watts @ 4 ohms, as the M-Pulse only puts out 600 at that ohmage. They sounded great in practice, and in just my apartment, but when I put them on stage and had the amp running around 3:00, it just wasn't the same. The cabs just sounded terrible.
But, those are gone now anyhow, and if the amp couldn't handle that setup, I doubt it's gonna handle my 6x10 that much better on stage. Hence why it's for sale...
 
#156
My rig update. And this is certainly the end all for me.

Sabine 7100 rack tuner, Stewart 2.1, Read "Purity" preamp. Into a Schroeder 1210, or for the ultimate... into both the Schroder 1201 and the Accugroove El Whappo sitting under it.

That... is a Pre/Power setup that KILLS!!! :bassist: :hyper:
 
#158
rockstarbassist said:
If I'm going to be running a Mesa Diesel 6x10 cab, 900 watts @ 4 ohms, about how many watts would be good for me to push through it? I don't need an amp just yet that will do that many watts stereo just yet, so 4 ohms bridged would be good.

I'm going to start out with an RBI, and then maybe add something with more cleanliness to it later on.
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For the Mesa 6x10, I'd say 1200 watts would be good. Anywhere between 1200 and 1600 and you'll be fine for power and headroom. Check out he QSC Plx's which can be found used all over the place. They bridge to 4-ohms and are really light (21 lbs.)

I play the RBI and it is really clean. It's got a blend control on it to dial in the Tube Emulation circuitry, so it can be as clean or as dirty as you like. I actually set mine to 100% bass signal, so if your bass is really clean, then this will actually be one of the cleaner pre's out there because it doesn't infect your bass sound with a sound the preamp manufacturer thought up. (I preferred the RBI to the BBE Bmax, which is highly regarded as a clean pre)
 
#159
Mo'Phat said:
For the Mesa 6x10, I'd say 1200 watts would be good. Anywhere between 1200 and 1600 and you'll be fine for power and headroom. Check out he QSC Plx's which can be found used all over the place. They bridge to 4-ohms and are really light (21 lbs.)

I play the RBI and it is really clean. It's got a blend control on it to dial in the Tube Emulation circuitry, so it can be as clean or as dirty as you like. I actually set mine to 100% bass signal, so if your bass is really clean, then this will actually be one of the cleaner pre's out there because it doesn't infect your bass sound with a sound the preamp manufacturer thought up. (I preferred the RBI to the BBE Bmax, which is highly regarded as a clean pre)
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Thanks guys. It's what I've decided upon. I believe I'm going to go after a QSC PLX 1602 and then have the RBI run into that. I really didn't know how clean the SansAmp got, as I had my BDDI set pretty dirty, but I'll mess with it for a while and see what I can get out of it. I don't need 2 preamps just yet, but there's always room for something more in my 6-spack SKB! :p
 

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