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Rattle Can Refinish Club

I paid $75 for mine and its great for practices and stuff, but for loud rock gigs its under-powered. And if you buy it you can always make it look awesome.:D But yea if you like it, it's definitely worth it.

That would make it the first Peavey Bass amp I own then, but I have a Peavey PA system that I love.

Hmmm. I haven't cranked the little guy too far, as it's in a small mall of stores and I don't think the other occupants would like it much: jewelry and china and such on their walls.

Guess I'll bring it home for a sound check this week. Thanks.
 
Here's my first serious attempt at a sunburst. It is in Mohawk nitro from Benjamin Moore. Mostly Light Oak Natural and Deep Mahogany Red with a little Dark Mahogany Red in the transition.

I'll start a build thread in Luthier's tomorrow with more pics.


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Have any of you had luck using rustoleum paint and touch brand? I have white primer, gloss black and clear coat. I have 800grit sand paper and 1500 and 2000 grit. I've painted bicycle frames before with metal flake, and it came out pretty nice. But it chipped, I think it was too thick and I didn't use primer or a clear coat.

I just started practicing on a paint stir stick. I've only put 2 coats of primer on it, and before I primed I used 400 grit to make the stir stick smooth.

How many coats of primer, color, and gloss do you recommend? I'm thinking about 3 coats of primer, 4 coats of color, and about 6 coats of gloss.

I know it's supposed to be applied super lightly, not packing it on.
 
Quick question... If I were to use reranch shell pink for a color, could I use store bought primer? Like the rustoleum from autozone, the touch up? And could I use the lacquer from Walmart?

I have a mim p bass that I got for short money that was painted with behr house paint. Obviously I stripped it already, and I have the primer from previous projects. I'd like to do shell pink, but getting what I need is going to be pricey. Bite the bullet and do it right, or can I cut a corner? Not looking for showroom quality, just decent.
 
Don't do it. Rustoleum usually has rust inhibitors - hence it's name.

The old product had fish oil in it, and that's not gonna work. More modern chemicals are available today to seal the oxides (rust) and they with their binding properties are not likely to live well under another product.

Nitroglycerine paints will 'melt-in' to the undercoat - which is the great property of that kind of paint - and it'll try to chemically bond to, after it softens, the primer. See the potential problem?

Primer is necessary in many situations. This one seems to me that you need to primer to seal off the undercoat of whatever (alkyd?) house paint-enamel that may remain on the surface of the body.

For lack of a more concise definition, 'lacquer' is to be considered a generic term and may mean anything from wishful thinking/advertising to a plasticized or otherwise-bound elements inside the vehicle of the paint.
 
It took a beat Epi Goth Tbird that started like this:

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And ended up with this:

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Duplicolor Gun Metal Gray on the body and Metallic black on the headstock. Not bad for my first attempt, but there are things I wish i would have done differently.

I just started refinishing an Epi Non-Reverse (p-j setup from the 90's) But not sure if I want to do a bright white with black-pearl guard or a light metallic silver-blue (Avignon Blue Metallic from Duplicolor) with an off white guard.
 
Have any of you had luck using rustoleum paint and touch brand? I have white primer, gloss black and clear coat. I have 800grit sand paper and 1500 and 2000 grit. I've painted bicycle frames before with metal flake, and it came out pretty nice. But it chipped, I think it was too thick and I didn't use primer or a clear coat.

I just started practicing on a paint stir stick. I've only put 2 coats of primer on it, and before I primed I used 400 grit to make the stir stick smooth.

How many coats of primer, color, and gloss do you recommend? I'm thinking about 3 coats of primer, 4 coats of color, and about 6 coats of gloss.

I know it's supposed to be applied super lightly, not packing it on.

I'm in the middle of a paint and body restoration of my Amigo.

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Notice that I have NOT completely coated the body with gallons and gallons of primer? It's not necessary.

Primer - or too much primer actually - is detrimental to the final color for durability, adhesion and hardness of the final surface.

It promotes a cushion effect to a point, but that's not it's purpose. Primer can be used to fill uneven surfaces for block sanding back to a flat plane so the final coat doesn't look like there's fried eggs under the paint.

It is also used to provide a 'tooth' for the color coat to hold onto. Modern paints require a 600# final block-out for the single stage colors. In the old days, a 220# was sufficient and was preferred so the color coat had something to hold onto, also.

That's all changed now. I tend to go to an 800# before color for my block outs now. Every scratch in the primer (sandpaper is just controlled scratching) will show up as waterfalls, irregularities and zebra stripes in the last coat.

SO --> Get the surface closed up first. Metal OR wood.

If that means using a sealer to close the pores or keep the grain from rising, then so be it.

Now apply primer to build the surface to get it flat and to see where any flaws in flatness or sculpture needs to be fixed.

I say for you to get a contiguous coat of primer on your body, since you might be changing from one vehicle (paint solvent) to another type and that can be bad. But don't put on multiple coats just to get them on. Use discretion!

Always use block sanding techniques - the longest flat sanders are the best as they reduce the tendency to wallow out of cut grooves into the surface.

Never use your hands, fingers, forehead, feet to hold the sandpaper. Always use a flat sanding block. You cannot help but sand furrows into the surface, and some color coats can see your heartbeat in the finished product. Believe me.

Typically - old, compatible paint is the best primer. Why? It's old. It has gassed off completely over time. It is stable. It is dry. It stuck to the base covering (whatever it was). It makes a great tell* when you need to make the surface flat.

*TELL= a way to see if things are flat

Then - many years of experience will tell you that if you put paint Z on primer Y and it's applied over old surface X, there will be no bad reactions.

Lacking experience or knowledge, you need to ONLY use matching primers, sealers, final color or clear coats as you see fit.

But - you do not need to pour a lot of primer on a paint job.

FYI: the Isuzu will be painted Porsche 'Arrest Me Red', a three part, catalyzed polyurethane paint with several coats (three maybe) of polyurethane clear (buffable) coats. But the primer will be about as you see it - splotchy and looking rather haphazard.

It's all in the plans.
 
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I can only speak from experience....

When you think you have enough coats, start sanding with 400 or so. BE SURE TO USE A SANDING BLOCK!!!

If you burned through, apply 3 more coats and be sure to let them dry. I mean like 2 days or so. Then sand with 600, 800, and finally 1500. You will have to sand more and more as you increase your grit. Maybe 10 minutes with 600 and A FEW HOURS with 1500 if you want it to look perfect. USE A SANDING BLOCK for all sanding and a sanding sponge for the contours. The use of a sanding block is critical.
 
Just want to stress that advice to let it dry and let it dry well.

If you are anywhere there is humidity that is a game changer.

If you can dry it indoors in controlled climate that would be ideal.

And if you are painting outside, keep in mind there's more crap floating in the air than you may think so if your not under cover of some kind that may also pose issues as far as imperfections.
If something does get on it just leave it let it completely dry and sand it out and paint it again if need be.
Bugs are infamous for landing on things if you paint at night especially.

And don't rush this process, allow yourself at least a few days time.
IME typically the more time you can spend on it the better the results, start rushing and youll end up a very miserable bass owner.

Good luck,
 
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