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REDDI, I'm a bit confused
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The question is generic for almost anything....car, watch, house, pen, shirt, etc. If you find value, good for you. If you don't, there are options. The market decides the price.
It's not a valid question because no one has to justify anything to you. Price and value are personal and subjective and unless someone is forcing you to buy a REDDI, they don't have tell you why they price their products like they do. They don't even have to sell you a good product. Because you don't have to buy it. Asking for someone to justify their price is just a complaint in another form and people get sick of complaints.
I would have said simply curious but I don't own a REDDI so maybe I can't experience the full outrage.
If the REDDI is the best at a $745 price point, what would be your second choice for something less expensive?
OP only has two posts in the whole thread, and they're on the first page. Moreover, the first post is prefaced with preparations for being flamed. Sounds like kicking anthills is more likely.
No need to be confused, OP. Pete Montessi and A-Designs are to
as Vincent van Goh is to
Many can forge, fake, copy, and imitate fine art, but they are not artists, and their works are not true. Although you can easily find a cheap van Goh knock off, it will never be a van Goh.
You might even contend that van Goh was not a true artist and that the forgeries are better than the originals. You will find little, if any support in this type of thinking.
Regardless of a flawed reasoning of REDDI inferiority, the proclaimed measure of artistry is always the original. So, by stating that something is better than REDDI, you have actually defined REDDI as the zenith and benchmark. Many believe you are absolutely correct. Maybe this is your confusion?
Although you may prefer the true art of other artists, your preference for others does nothing to diminish the original work of a van Goh or a Montessi. And, to further clarify, you will always pay more for original art. There is a monetary premium attached to an original.
However, if you are happy with a cheap knock off, and the troubles associated with that type of thing, just go with it. Because it's all about the music in the end, right? Choose the tools that best support your artistry. Don't begrudge those that may be happy with other choices, or the artists that create original, great art.
You might even contend that van Goh was not a true artist and that the forgeries are better than the originals. You will find little, if any support in this type of thinking.
Regardless of a flawed reasoning of REDDI inferiority, the proclaimed measure of artistry is always the original. So, by stating that something is better than REDDI, you have actually defined REDDI as the zenith and benchmark. Many believe you are absolutely correct. Maybe this is your confusion?
Although you may prefer the true art of other artists, your preference for others does nothing to diminish the original work of a van Goh or a Montessi. And, to further clarify, you will always pay more for original art. There is a monetary premium attached to an original.
However, if you are happy with a cheap knock off, and the troubles associated with that type of thing, just go with it. Because it's all about the music in the end, right? Choose the tools that best support your artistry. Don't begrudge those that may be happy with other choices, or the artists that create original, great art.
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[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. I have an original SVT-DI, great sounding DI with 12AU7, fat and warm, I think it rounds off the top end a little more than the REDDI, great if you run any kind of drive before the DI IMO.
No need to be confused, OP. Pete Montessi and A-Designs are to
as Vincent van Goh is to
Many can forge, fake, copy, and imitate fine art, but they are not artists, and their works are not true. Although you can easily find a cheap van Goh knock off, it will never be a van Goh.
You might even contend that van Goh was not a true artist and that the forgeries are better than the originals. You will find little, if any support in this type of thinking.
Regardless of a flawed reasoning of REDDI inferiority, the proclaimed measure of artistry is always the original. So, by stating that something is better than REDDI, you have actually defined REDDI as the zenith and benchmark. Many believe you are absolutely correct. Maybe this is your confusion?
Although you may prefer the true art of other artists, your preference for others does nothing to diminish the original work of a van Goh or a Montessi. And, to further clarify, you will always pay more for original art. There is a monetary premium attached to an original.
However, if you are happy with a cheap knock off, and the troubles associated with that type of thing, just go with it. Because it's all about the music in the end, right? Choose the tools that best support your artistry. Don't begrudge those that may be happy with other choices, or the artists that create original, great art.
Not looking for a copy at all.
I'm interested in what others think is a good DI at a lower price point.
I had a Countryman as have an Ampeg tube preamp for DI work.
Also like the SM9.2 DI with the tube channel.
The little studio work I do is walk in, plug this in, and let's go.
I've heard the Reddi and it is great.
OTOH, there were a few nice records recorded without it too.
Edit: Here's a really nice comparison of DI boxes where the REDDI shines
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svtb15
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Ive had ( somewhat copies) but it was before i knew about the REDDI,,, I owned the UA Solo 610 and the Groove Tube Brick.. My Avalon was something very different...
A few days after i got my first REDDI I was on a session .. I then put the Brick and the UA as well as the Demeter and Aguilar tube DI on ebay. Gone
I think its been 11 or maybe 10 years now with the REDDI love affair.. no hype by me..
I just did a Mega church gig this morning .. FOH guy does "A" act headliner gigs for his day gig.. He was swooning over my Alleva coppolo P and REDDI today... They had a Radial sitting there when i showed up for soundcheck But i always bring my REDDI. I plugged in and it was no a brainer..
Here is how my One Road REDDI travels .. Its a little dented and scratched but is gone everywhere.
I have two though.. One for gigs the other stays home for my mini studio setup
A few days after i got my first REDDI I was on a session .. I then put the Brick and the UA as well as the Demeter and Aguilar tube DI on ebay. Gone
I think its been 11 or maybe 10 years now with the REDDI love affair.. no hype by me..
I just did a Mega church gig this morning .. FOH guy does "A" act headliner gigs for his day gig.. He was swooning over my Alleva coppolo P and REDDI today... They had a Radial sitting there when i showed up for soundcheck But i always bring my REDDI. I plugged in and it was no a brainer..
Here is how my One Road REDDI travels .. Its a little dented and scratched but is gone everywhere.
I have two though.. One for gigs the other stays home for my mini studio setup
I thought the Tonecraft and the REDDI sounded quite similar. Then again, the TC has more tone shaping qualities, and is $1300.
While I think Josh Broughton did a really bang-up job with his B-15-inspired DI from what I've heard (I don't have one but I have a couple of his pedals and they are both excellent), you are correct. Like I said before, the REDDI was the first DI of its kind to catch on in a big way, and it's emerged as the standard because of that.No need to be confused, OP. Pete Montessi and A-Designs are to
as Vincent van Goh is to
Many can forge, fake, copy, and imitate fine art, but they are not artists, and their works are not true. Although you can easily find a cheap van Goh knock off, it will never be a van Goh.
You might even contend that van Goh was not a true artist and that the forgeries are better than the originals. You will find little, if any support in this type of thinking.
Regardless of a flawed reasoning of REDDI inferiority, the proclaimed measure of artistry is always the original. So, by stating that something is better than REDDI, you have actually defined REDDI as the zenith and benchmark. Many believe you are absolutely correct. Maybe this is your confusion?
Although you may prefer the true art of other artists, your preference for others does nothing to diminish the original work of a van Goh or a Montessi. And, to further clarify, you will always pay more for original art. There is a monetary premium attached to an original.
However, if you are happy with a cheap knock off, and the troubles associated with that type of thing, just go with it. Because it's all about the music in the end, right? Choose the tools that best support your artistry. Don't begrudge those that may be happy with other choices, or the artists that create original, great art.
Lowendtech
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This is the point where I get hung up on the peculiarity of the repeated comparison between the P15 and the REDDI. In that they have tubes, are DI's, are rectangular cube-like shaped, then I suppose they are comparable. That's about all you can say about their similarities.
The P15 is a preamp circuit with capabilities that the REDDI simply does not have, namely bass & treble adjustments. You can use the P15 in front of a power amp and not as a DI, but the REDDI by itself cannot do this with its gain stage. The newer version of the P15 gives you three outputs: an XLR out, 1/4" Wet out, and 1/4" Dry thru. The REDDI cannot give you a wet signal to go into your amp unless you have a separate splitter. The P15 is pretty unique in that regard, perhaps even original.
I'm not saying the P15 is better than the REDDI, but I am saying it is significantly DIFFERENT.
Comparing a batch built product (with only 30 some odd P15's in existence) to a mass produced, widely used product is equally peculiar.
The P15 is a preamp circuit with capabilities that the REDDI simply does not have, namely bass & treble adjustments. You can use the P15 in front of a power amp and not as a DI, but the REDDI by itself cannot do this with its gain stage. The newer version of the P15 gives you three outputs: an XLR out, 1/4" Wet out, and 1/4" Dry thru. The REDDI cannot give you a wet signal to go into your amp unless you have a separate splitter. The P15 is pretty unique in that regard, perhaps even original.
I'm not saying the P15 is better than the REDDI, but I am saying it is significantly DIFFERENT.
Comparing a batch built product (with only 30 some odd P15's in existence) to a mass produced, widely used product is equally peculiar.
Lowendtech
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We're bass guitarists. By our very nature, we are peculiar. We provide the bum wiggling track that allows the guitarist to go home happy.
I don't see it that way. I think it's a totally fair comparison. All tube DI's with large output transformers will get compared to the REDDI from here on out, just as all indie amp builders who make tube bass amps will still get compared to the SVT and B-15.
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I prefer LESS bells and whistles.. It don't want all the extra knobs nor do i need it. What i do need is consistency 100% of the time..EQ on a DI is goig to add one more set of knobs to adjust... I don't have to worry about any extra EQ points on the REDDI.. I have Volume which i leave at 12 high all the time.
Personally , I DON'T want a DI with all the extra stuff.. Thats the main reason i got rig of the Avalon..
By seemingly slight changes you make with EQ affect gain staging all the way down the line.. If you have active bass you have EQ there, then you go into EQ on your DI then you have EQ on your amp too? it's a hole digger that you can't get out of at times and just useless for me.
For some people that is fine.. But all that extra stuff adds one more hurdle to have 100% consistency day to day gig to gig... I dont gamble on having it great one day then its different the next day form a sound perspective > id prefer to blame someone else on any inconsistencies, not me..
Personally , I DON'T want a DI with all the extra stuff.. Thats the main reason i got rig of the Avalon..
By seemingly slight changes you make with EQ affect gain staging all the way down the line.. If you have active bass you have EQ there, then you go into EQ on your DI then you have EQ on your amp too? it's a hole digger that you can't get out of at times and just useless for me.
For some people that is fine.. But all that extra stuff adds one more hurdle to have 100% consistency day to day gig to gig... I dont gamble on having it great one day then its different the next day form a sound perspective > id prefer to blame someone else on any inconsistencies, not me..
