Yeah, don't let facts get in the way. Having been to his live performance, he played his fender on 2..that's 2 cuts. The rest was the Sire, the sterling, the African bass, and bass clarinet. The fender was played the least...what?!
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Request - ease up on the Sire advocacy
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So how exactly do these compare to basses twice their price? Do they have equal quality fretwork/fret material? I can only go by pics, but the finish quality looks like a typical $700 bass would. Again, I'm just going by pics, but the hardware doesn't look like anything I've seen in the $1500 price range but seems appropriate on a $700...never played one. I'm not being facetious, I genuinely want to know as this seems to be a common argument.
No. That would be too much work to find them. They are out there though.... you can trust me because I'm from the internet.
Maybe I'm cynical, but if you think most endorsements actually mean anything these days, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Endorsements are business deals. As long as the product won't reflect badly on the endorser, they don't seem to be all that concerned about doing such deals. Especially once they're on the level Mr. Miller dwells on. Because there's so much good stuff out there these days you don't usually need to worry too much going with ANY of the reputable names.
I'm also guessing Marcus Miller still uses his Fender for the same reason I still use the Ripper I've owned for over 40 years - despite the fact I have nine other basses - including some "better" ones that are sitting in my home studio. I use it because it's an old friend. And I know every single thing there is to know about it. I don't have to try or look for anything. It's just there when I want it. And I'm not sure owning a second "identical" Ripper would give me the same experience. Which is why everything I own and use was individually selected. I don't want just any PBass or JBass. I want the one that works for me. And I don't think I'm unusual when it comes to thinking that way.
Note: When Marcus Miller got involved with Sire, his goal wasn't to create an inexpensive version of his signature bass. He wanted to help create an excellent but affordable instrument for bass players who couldn't afford something more expensive. The goal was maximum value and functionality delivered at an affordable price. Which is the same thing Leo Fender was attempting to accomplish when he started his own guitar company. In many respects, Sire has embraced Leo Fender's philosophy and is following in his footsteps.
I'd bet Leo would have loved seeing this were he still around. Because it proves just how right his original vision was.
sometimes its fun to just poke the bear on TB and see who bites..so many on here take things so serious as if they are shareholders in the products they are backing. I personally believe as others have suggested that some on here have a hidden agenda pumping this particular product up
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Ok, you got me. My agenda,to ask,could spend more on a jazz bass, but why?
It's that epic preamp man. I'd try to compare it to a Fender that has many similar features. An American Deluxe has binding, block inlays, an active/passive preamp, string through body, stabilizing rods in the neck. A 5 string Sire has all of these things but it also has sweepable mids and a tone control and 18 volt preamp. It's like $1,100 less too. Fender has like rolled edges on the neck and better tuners, feel free to add anything else. Edit: to answer you more directly, the fretwork is very nice on mine and bridge is a pretty cool heavy saddle design, bone nut.
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To each their own I guess, I've owned over 50 basses over the years and have always disliked Fenders (except the 60th anniversary), ive played two Sires and they werent for me, also played a couple Foderas that didnt quite cut it either so really it all boils down to what the player
likes in their hands.
It's a shame this has devolved into name calling.
Just curious, if someone on here questions the quality of your basses, without actually having owned or even played one, should we believe them? If they say they can tell, just by looking at some pictures, that your basses couldn't possibly be as good as Brand B, should we take their word for it? Or should we give more credence to the comments of someone who owns, or has played, one of your basses and also owns, or has played, Brand B?
Should we take the word of the self-selecting group who decides to affirm their own choices by posting on the Internets, or should we hire a big four consulting firm to conduct random double-blind polls?
Sorry, lost my train of thought....
OK - I was trying to stay out of the thread - but I think the Sire advocacy just....
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Who's advocating Sire?
I don't even own one. Nor am I planning on getting one. I've got zero financial interest in whether they succeed or fail.
I've just had a chance to try a few and I was very impressed by what I saw - even if they definitely weren't the bass for me.
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I'm sure they are fine basses, my whole point is that, to say they are on par with an American Standard Fender is laughable, because everything you pay for in an American Standard is not on the Sire, its just a fact. I'm sure they set up and play just fine. I am pretty sure they have a very nice preamp for the money, but I am also sure the components that went into said preamp are cheap lower quality stuff as you would find on any inexpensive bass. I would guess it is a copy of what Marcus Miller has in his Fender, but who knows.
In a month or so, there will be plenty of these in the classifieds when people fall out of love with them. I may pickup one up if the price is right.
Has anyone else noticed that their website looks like everything was translated to english with google translate?
This is all pretty broken English:
"With 3 band EQ, the player can have versatility in sound that can be suited for all occasions of music sessions"
"Big polepiece Humbucker Bass Sets are available as newly developed Soap bar style humbucker pickups that produces strong output with punchy and tight mid tone."
"We are happy that SIRE Marcus Miller basses are now available and anticipate more people to play and enjoy music."
It's full of weird little sentences like those that are exactly the kind of stuff you see on weird Japanese and Chinese knock offs.
This is all pretty broken English:
"With 3 band EQ, the player can have versatility in sound that can be suited for all occasions of music sessions"
"Big polepiece Humbucker Bass Sets are available as newly developed Soap bar style humbucker pickups that produces strong output with punchy and tight mid tone."
"We are happy that SIRE Marcus Miller basses are now available and anticipate more people to play and enjoy music."
It's full of weird little sentences like those that are exactly the kind of stuff you see on weird Japanese and Chinese knock offs.
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