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Rhythm guit.....

Too true. Fact is, i am that person to an extent. I never liked to learn things note for note. I was a die hard improviser and master of the "jam." Problem is, folks dont want to go to a show to see a few guys noodling for a couple hours(well, most of the time). Eventually after trying to go legit in the rock space for a little while, i decided to go straight jazz. I felt that jazz gave me the freedom to go off the book but still play within a successful group and have an audience. Plus i simply like jazz and the spirit of it.

So now i get to improvise my bass lines in the walking sense, but still play within the harmonic/rhythmic scheme of the song. Luckily i didn't have to become a note for note recreator to play to an audience.


You found your nitch. You will also find that jazz will round you out and that after doing it for a while , you will be better prepared to hear something and duplicate it. I am also kind of in the same boat. My advantage and abilities are more because i have been doing it for 50 years and fortunately have a good ear. With that said , some of my learning is still very difficult. I don't read music well so some of the more complicated stuff takes an awful lot of work on my part with a lot of help from you tube tutorials. This is the best most guitar players can expect without a lot of formal training. Gatorbait (my son) went to an arts oriented music school for four years. He can now sight read and play three instruments and is making a living working in pit orchestras and getting parts in musical plays. Within one year in the arts school with formal training , he was able to play rings around me and he can absolutely smoke me on the bass guitar these days. I'm good enough to learn what I need to play for a band. He's good enough to walk in any door , be handed a stack of music , and be ready to play just about anything in very short order. I can't make a living at it.......he can. Most players don't even have had the luxury that I have had by being in it for so many years and very few (myself included) are willing to put in the work to become truly skilled at their instrument. And so we deal with noodlers , amateurs and wannabes. Some have good attitudes and genuinely try to improve themselves. Most , however learn a few licks and think they are good enough to hit the big time and then spend years wondering why this hasn't happened.
edit: I personally will probably never be good enough to hit the big time , I am however good enough to entertain an audience well and even get a few boobies flashed at me from time to time. Rock n roll.
 
I'm not sure I see the problem in this particular example as long as he stays diatonic.

Let's say your 1 chord is A minor. 3 chord is C major. Put 'em together - A C E G. What has changed? There's only one additional note in the guitar line. This will actually sound good. I think Police do this a lot.

2 chord is B dim, 4 chord is D minor. Put 'em together? B D F A. B minor 7 flat 5. Will sound good. There is no actual change in harmony.

But if he changes the harmony very erratically (especially if it goes off on a tangent that has no relation to the chords), yeah I could see that being a problem.

I'd wonder what was up with that too. One of the bands I was in used a blackboard to chart out a new song we were learning at the time - but this has already been proposed, and yes it can come across as passive-aggressive.

The problem is voicing. Say they are expecting a C chord. Guitarist plays an Em. Looks ok on paper, but if this is a first position Em he's playing, you've got a baritone-range third and major seventh. Whereas this would work fine if he played the upper 3 strings at the 12th fret, even if it adds a 9th.