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Road Worn P - Faux Cigarette Burn

I am so sick of all this BS, pro and con, regarding relicing. Select your instrument based on feel, sound, playability, build quality, weight, price, etc. If preferences regarding superficialities like relicing, perceived "mojo," and other undefinable and imaginary qualities are important to you, that's fine, but don't pretend it has anything to do with the practical value of an instrument.
 
The OP's RW's 'fake' cigarette burn actually looks 'real' when you look at a genuine older Fender with one. Here's my '59's headstock - with an 'authentic' ciggie burn. I've never smoked, came on the headstock as-is. Before the no-smoking in bars laws it was pretty common to have musicians smoking on stage, and stashing their unfiltered ciggies up by the nut.

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I think u sanded down just a little to much! but if it works for u.. kool!! I guess it beats a cigarette burn!
 
If preferences regarding superficialities like relicing, perceived "mojo," and other undefinable and imaginary qualities are important to you, that's fine, but don't pretend it has anything to do with the practical value of an instrument.
The fact that YOU can't define it doesn't make it imaginary. ;) Mojo is a feeling or vibe some people get from an instrument. Nothing imaginary about it; unless you want to tell people that they don't know what they are feeling.

Some people like a well worn instrument, some people like a pristine instrument. The biggest difference is that we don't hear the people who like worn instruments whining all the time about people that like pristine instruments. :D
 
Mojo happens quicker to a pre worn bass I think. I mucked up a fret filing job a couple times, then did some sanding to make the neck a bit satiny (it glossed over already so I'm keeping it, damn nitro, the color looks different where I did it). I added a few dings. I don't care, it was already pre road worn.

I threw in a new pickup, and put BEAD strings on it. I made it my own. I didn't feel the need to keep it the way it was, or worry about getting her dirty or dinged up.

Usually I'm afraid of taking a bass out because it's pristine. I put a ding in my favorite G&L a few weeks ago and I'm still not happy about it, like I ruined something. I put some finish damage in my RW and I don't care.

I'm just a bit of a nut when it comes maintaining my stuff. It's kinda liberating I guess to own the RW and not care quite as much what happens to it in terms of wear and tear.

EXACTLY! I used to have a beautiful Select P. However, I felt like I had to bathe before touching it.....ha ha ha.
 
So a faux-cigarette burn bothers you but all the other faux-wear marks don't. Interesting.

You do realise every mark on that bass is "faux" as well don't you??

Absolutely I do. I just found the cigarette burn a bit over the top. I used to not like the whole relic thing, but they've grown on me. I think you either like them or you really don't (not a lot of middle ground). One thing I do find comical is people who mock the Road Worn's, but go nuts over Fender Custom Shop basses with light or heavy relic'ing. The wear weather it's my RW or a Masterbuilt is equally fake.
 
The fact that YOU can't define it doesn't make it imaginary. ;) Mojo is a feeling or vibe some people get from an instrument. Nothing imaginary about it; unless you want to tell people that they don't know what they are feeling.

Some people like a well worn instrument, some people like a pristine instrument. The biggest difference is that we don't hear the people who like worn instruments whining all the time about people that like pristine instruments. :D
Very interesting response: in the first part when you "define" mojo as a "feeling" or "vibe" you confirm my point that "mojo" is merely an abstraction that exists only in the mind/imagination. (BTW, giving a synonym for something is NOT defining it.)

In the second part of your post you demonstrate that you completely missed the overall point of my original post, i.e., if you feel "mojo" or have a preference for a pristine or beat-up instrument or an instrument with spaghetti sauce smeared all over it, that's just fine with me; I truly do not give a rat's *ss either way what anyone's preference is. My point was that none of that has anything to do with the intrinsic and measurable characteristics of a musical instrument. That goes for electric basses and for Stradivarius violins.
 
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Very interesting response: in the first part when you "define" mojo as a "feeling" or "vibe" you confirm my point that "mojo" is merely an abstraction that exists only in the mind/imagination. (BTW, giving a synonym for something is NOT defining it.)

In the second part of your post you demonstrate that you completely missed the overall point of my original post, i.e., if you feel "mojo" or have a preference for a pristine or beat-up instrument or an instrument with spaghetti sauce smeared all over it, that's just fine with me; I truly do not give a rat's *ss either way what anyone's preference is. My point was that none of that has anything to do with the intrinsic and measurable characteristics of a musical instrument. That goes for electric basses and for Stradivarius violins.
Not even worth responding too. :rollno:

Except to go on the ignore list of course. Einen schönen Tag noch!