Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

[jerry]

Well...I think we bass players suffer from a specific disorder...if one cab sounds fine and is loud enough, then having two must be twice as good.

Makes sense to me!

 

[popinfresh]

again , thanks for the real whirl review. there's been quite a bit here about the need for only one cab, yet when I cruised the site..a lot of players were going through two. The idea here being a great sound in ONE small box that allows everyone to hear, but not so loud as to being taken out of the mix in the space..which is the real sound on any gig.

I'd only ever need my Schroe 410.. But a 1212 or 1210 would be nice to add on

Or even a NV215

 

[el_Kabong]

I'd only ever need my Schroe 410.. But a 1212 or 1210 would be nice to add on

Or even a NV215

Got to admit I'd like to try a 1212 under my 410UL for no good reason too!

 

[Adam Barkley]

According to UPS, my Schroeder 1210 should get here today. Since going off to college I have been forced to play through a Peavey combo. That thing is lifeless mud is in a box.

I am pretty excited about getting this cabinet

 

[iriegnome]

My Band [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] just finished playing - Grateful Garcia Gathering, Farmapalooza, Freindship Park Festival, Harvest Fest and Robstock! I have gotten more converts to Schroeder that I can count. These cabinets of mine have now sat on the same stage as Particle, The Jerry Garcia Band, Melvin Seals, The Big Woo, Keller Williams and about a hundred others. I have never needed to ask for bass in the monitors. The bigger the stage the more these cabinets seem to open up and just perform! All of that and I am only using a 1212 under a Mini-12. I cannot imagine a 410. OMG

 

[NicJimBass]

Okay, so I'm looking to replace my refrigerator... I mean my Ampeg 810, and Schroeder cabs look pretty cool. I play all size of gigs, so I'm looking to go to 2 cabinets, using one at small gigs, or gigs that have horrible acoustics, and 2 for large/ outdoor gigs. I'm using a GK 1001 RB-II, and I'm wondering what would be my best bet for 2 Schroeder cabs to replace the 810 and it's wall of mud? Any suggestions?? Would I even need to get 2 cabs? Help!

 

[John D Harris]

Okay, so I'm looking to replace my refrigerator... I mean my Ampeg 810, and Schroeder cabs look pretty cool. I play all size of gigs, so I'm looking to go to 2 cabinets, using one at small gigs, or gigs that have horrible acoustics, and 2 for large/ outdoor gigs. I'm using a GK 1001 RB-II, and I'm wondering what would be my best bet for 2 Schroeder cabs to replace the 810 and it's wall of mud? Any suggestions?? Would I even need to get 2 cabs? Help!

I know it's hard to quantify in words, but how loud to you need/want to get?

Do you run your bass through a decent PA for FOH?
Do you compete with two loud guitarists and a loud drummer?
Do you play in a Metallica tribute band?

 

[gandhirrea]

Finally ordered my Mini 12 (w/o the horn) from Brian. He's really good to deal with. He made sure he had all the information correct and answered all my e-mails promptly. Now, I have wait for it to be delivered before I can see what all the hype is about . (It seems I always give in to hype)

Also, I scored a used GK 400RB III for $217 to go with it.

Hopefully they both arrive at the same time.

 

[NicJimBass]

Yes to everything but the tribute band thing. I usually have a decent PA to go thru, but with both guitars and drums, it's hard to hear myself sometimes. The whole deal about being able to hear the bass all over the stage intruges me a great deal.... I just want to make sure I get enough volume. I think I normally run at about 110-115 db on a loud gig, and a little under that on a small gig. I had the 810 turned almost completely off at a church gig we did... it was a large sanctuary with hard walls, ceiling, and pews. It was our sound guy's worst nightmare! Hope this helps!

 

[John D Harris]

Yes to everything but the tribute band thing. I usually have a decent PA to go thru, but with both guitars and drums, it's hard to hear myself sometimes. The whole deal about being able to hear the bass all over the stage intruges me a great deal.... I just want to make sure I get enough volume. I think I normally run at about 110-115 db on a loud gig, and a little under that on a small gig. I had the 810 turned almost completely off at a church gig we did... it was a large sanctuary with hard walls, ceiling, and pews. It was our sound guy's worst nightmare! Hope this helps!

Apparently, you'll have problems running two Schroeder cabs off the 1001 as all (but the Mini's) are 4ohm cabs.

You could just buy a 1210 or 1212 and give one of those a whirl and see how they work volume/coverage-wise.

If you still feel you need/want more volume for bigger gigs, get a 21012 or 410 just for the larger venues.

IMO, 700W into a 1212 should cover all but seriously large stages at seriously loud levels, as you have PA support for FOH.

 

[Brian Barrett]

Jorg is offering the 1212 in an 8 ohm version and then the mini's can come in either 8 or 4.

But Lo-Freq is correct, it wasn't up until to long ago Jorg was able to start offering the 1212 in either version.

Thanks

 

[John D Harris]

My Bad!

I thought I remembered someone on talkbass mentioning an 8 ohm cab other than the Mini's.

I brought it up somewhere and another TBer said they were still just 4ohm available.

Good to get the real scoop.

The more options the better...

 

[bassbmx]

Does anyone know the prices for the mini12 or mini12+ with the rack space? (airheads?)

I'm probably just dumb but I couldn't find prices anywhere on the site or the sites that schroedercabinets linked to.

Also, how much rack space is there in the minis?

 

[tallboybass]

Okay, I got my 1210 today. From playing in my house with just a drummer, this thing is SERIOUSLY loud. I've only tried the WalkAbout with it, but there does seem to be a pretty heavy low-mid hump. Also, the tweeter is GREAT. I don't usually even use a tweeter, but this one is smooth. I've got two gigs on Friday so I'll give a more real-world report then.

I was wondering, is it necessary to leave it horizontal or could I stand it on end where the 10 is pointing up? How about putting it up on a stand to get it closer to ear-level? I know I'll lose some lows but it has a lot anyway.

Thanks, Alan

 

[bassbmx]

Just sort of guessing here but I think it should be fine to put it on its end. A lot of the guys on the schroeder site have theirs on their side.

 

[popinfresh]

NicJim- I'd suggest going with an 8ohm 1212 to start with. And add another or a 1210 (if Jorg has them in 8ohms) if you need more.

Either that, or jusr grab yourself a 21012 or 410. Whilst the louder they go, the better they sound.. they still sound great at quite levels.

 

[Hollow Man]

I was wondering, is it necessary to leave it horizontal or could I stand it on end where the 10 is pointing up? How about putting it up on a stand to get it closer to ear-level? I know I'll lose some lows but it has a lot anyway.

A lot of people do this, and in fact, there was a separate thread a little while back about all the different ways that people sit their cabs to get different tonal properties. I haven't experimented with my 1210 yet, but it's pretty common knowledge that with the angled speaker, positioning your cab in different ways will give you audible differences. Give it a shot, and see what you come up with!

 

[Larry Kaye]

are two. A..there's a serious lack of stage room and six or seven inches less width are important and/or B..the stage area and room in general are so echoey that you can't really hear yourself almost at all. However.....it definitely loses some booty and bottom when the cabinet is turned on it's side. Still sounds great but.....

If you're using the 1210 as your "personal bass monitor cabinet" where no one on stage needs to hear you through it but you, I would think that you'd be able to put the cabinet up, down, sideways, ear level, knee level wherever you get what you want out of it. If you count on the cabinet to be your band's bass monitor I wouldn't put it at ear level or raise it off the floor. It will, like other cabs lose a substantial amount of booty and bottom end without any floor contact.

If I had any suggestions at all for you, it would be to try to get used to the cabinet being horizontal on the floor down by your knees and not directly into your ears. It sounds great down there and you won't go deaf either.

Lkaye

 

[Schwinn]

I was wondering, is it necessary to leave it horizontal or could I stand it on end where the 10 is pointing up? How about putting it up on a stand to get it closer to ear-level? I know I'll lose some lows but it has a lot anyway.

Thanks, Alan

I use it this way 99% of the time. Just because it puts my rack up higher so I down have to bend down. Either way I don't think there would be a difference in sound.

 

[John D Harris]

are two. A..there's a serious lack of stage room and six or seven inches less width are important and/or B..the stage area and room in general are so echoey that you can't really hear yourself almost at all. However.....it definitely loses some booty and bottom when the cabinet is turned on it's side. Still sounds great but.....

If you're using the 1210 as your "personal bass monitor cabinet" where no one on stage needs to hear you through it but you, I would think that you'd be able to put the cabinet up, down, sideways, ear level, knee level wherever you get what you want out of it. If you count on the cabinet to be your band's bass monitor I wouldn't put it at ear level or raise it off the floor. It will, like other cabs lose a substantial amount of booty and bottom end without any floor contact.

If I had any suggestions at all for you, it would be to try to get used to the cabinet being horizontal on the floor down by your knees and not directly into your ears. It sounds great down there and you won't go deaf either.

Lkaye

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They were 'voiced' in the horizontal position, any other positioning will affect the tonal balance (more low end -- baffle angled down or less low end -- baffle angled up).

I tried using mine with the angled baffle angled up for a while and finally decided it didn't sound as natural and balanced as in it's horizontal position.
Since then, it's all horizontal.
Even if I play a boomy room, I'll just use EQing for getting the balance as close to right as possible.

But...YMMV and some people like it that way.
Doesn't hurt to try and see what you think.