Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

[bryan bailey]

I think I'm going to get a 1010 and 1212 combo'd up

700 @ 4 ohms each ala my PLX2402

Should be sweet, and easier to move.

 

[James Hart]

I think I'm going to get a 1010 and 1212 combo'd up

700 @ 4 ohms each ala my PLX2402

Should be sweet, and easier to move.

I sooo cannot wait till Saturday when my 1212 shows up

only 450 watts each coming from my CE1000 but yeah.... sweet
(tube amp needs to chill till I get up the bucks for a retube... might kill me, but after teh holidays is sounding about when)

 

[Nick man]

I sooo cannot wait till Saturday when my 1212 shows up

only 450 watts each coming from my CE1000 but yeah.... sweet
(tube amp needs to chill till I get up the bucks for a retube... might kill me, but after teh holidays is sounding about when)

I found one of those on e-bay with a Peavey 810 cab but he wont split them up and its for pickup only.

 

[bryan bailey]

Uh, I don't feel like searching through this thread, buch how much do the 1010's and 1212's go for?

 

[Nick man]

The Low End bass shop has them for $649

 

[Stewmc5222]

... Now... if I was a solo bass artist. LIke Jake Kot, or Stewart McKinsey or someone like that.. I would certainly want the round/sweet huge low end provided by the E.W....

well, I will tell you that the El Whappo is the finest cabinet I've ever played through and I can't imagine giving up my endorsement for anything on earth, but I am certainly curious about the Schroeder cabs...



from the lows,

Stew

 

[Bigwan]

I think I'm going to get a 1010 and 1212 combo'd up

700 @ 4 ohms each ala my PLX2402

Should be sweet, and easier to move.

Wouldn't it be better with 2 1210s combo'd, then you could still have 12's and 10's in a single cab and use them individually?

Just thinking out loud...

 

[Basso Gruvitas]

Wouldn't it be better with 2 1210s combo'd, then you could still have 12's and 10's in a single cab and use them individually?

Just thinking out loud...

Makes more sense to me too, especially if you're playing a smaller gig and only need one cab. You have a 10 and a 12 in one box to do the job.

 

[natrab]

Got my 1212 today and took it to rehearsal. This is by far the best cab I've ever had. Smokes my Mesa 1516 and just about every other cab I've played. Huge low end. It's a little hard to hear the high end when it's not aimed at you (mainly when it's on the floor). It truly is all you need for a gig and my band plays LOUD. It has such great clarity at any volume level. It can take all the power you can dish out. After about an hour of playing it melted the solder in my speaker cable and the sound cut out (that's what I get for using 15AWG - I've got some 10AWG and some Big Fatty plugs to make a new cable for this rig). After that I was back on the road again and I really can't say in words how incredible this cab is. You have to hear it.

 

[John D Harris]

Got my 1212 today and took it to rehearsal. This is by far the best cab I've ever had. Smokes my Mesa 1516 and just about every other cab I've played. Huge low end. It's a little hard to hear the high end when it's not aimed at you (mainly when it's on the floor). It truly is all you need for a gig and my band plays LOUD. It has such great clarity at any volume level. It can take all the power you can dish out. After about an hour of playing it melted the solder in my speaker cable and the sound cut out (that's what I get for using 15AWG - I've got some 10AWG and some Big Fatty plugs to make a new cable for this rig). After that I was back on the road again and I really can't say in words how incredible this cab is. You have to hear it.

Glad you're happy. Thanks for the update.

Again, feel free to crank that tweeter level control.

 

[Basso Gruvitas]

Wow, it melted your speaker cable??!! Dude, make sure you wear a lead support cup too! Don't do any permanent damage to yourself!

I'm also glad you like the cab. I have a gig this weekend so I get to use the Schroeder again. The gig is high society and the bandleader usually has me play through an SWR WM-12. But to HECK with that!!! I'm going to blow these people out with that cab!!

 

[KenToby]

I have a Tech Soundsystems combo amp with this same set up and after reading about the port placement, etc. these "new" cabs sound much like a clone of the Tech stuff.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe Jorge sold a couple of Tech cabs back in March. I do hope there is somthing new under the sun with these cabs, if not I'll be keeping my Tech combo.
Sombody tell me what the significant differences are if any.

Thanks,

KT

Well, everything so far said is correct. Everyone through the shop has had to pick their jaw up off the ground that has played through the Schroeder’s. The 1210 combo will easily kick a lot of 410’s on the market! The 410 is just beyond anything you could compare to it in its size and really even bigger....... it will kick most 610 & 810’s. Jorg has really got something going and has spared no expense in his design and parts into his cab’s. He probably has more cost in any one cab then most.

Schroeder’s have a place in the cabinet industry for sure. He didn’t copy another design and try to make a buck, but instead tried to push the envelope a little further!

 

[John D Harris]

I have a Tech Soundsystems combo amp with this same set up and after reading about the port placement, etc. these "new" cabs sound much like a clone of the Tech stuff.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe Jorge sold a couple of Tech cabs back in March. I do hope there is somthing new under the sun with these cabs, if not I'll be keeping my Tech combo.
Sombody tell me what the significant differences are if any.

Thanks,

KT

This has already been covered (I think twice already).
Do a search.

 

[Basso Gruvitas]

I have a Tech Soundsystems combo amp with this same set up and after reading about the port placement, etc. these "new" cabs sound much like a clone of the Tech stuff.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe Jorge sold a couple of Tech cabs back in March. I do hope there is somthing new under the sun with these cabs, if not I'll be keeping my Tech combo.
Sombody tell me what the significant differences are if any.

Thanks,

KT

Ken,
If you're happy with what you got, keep it. I was after a louder cab without getting a friggin' 8x10 for my 42-year-old back!!

 

[KenToby]

Do a search?! What? This has NOT been covered... not ONCE.
I'm reading that these cabs seem to be ripoff of the Tech stuff "...down to the ports..."
I'd rather hear "Yea, I took the Tech cab and refined it a bit". What I'm reading is: "Through lots of trial and error I've come up with a new, better configuration of bass cab".
Looking at my Tech cab I see nothing original here.

KT

This has already been covered (I think twice already).
Do a search.

 

[jerry]

Maybe the "trial and error" was just putting better & more powerful speakers in them, I don't know....but it works for me

 

[Transverz]

Do a search?! What? This has NOT been covered... not ONCE.
I'm reading that these cabs seem to be ripoff of the Tech stuff "...down to the ports..."
I'd rather hear "Yea, I took the Tech cab and refined it a bit". What I'm reading is: "Through lots of trial and error I've come up with a new, better configuration of bass cab".
Looking at my Tech cab I see nothing original here.

KT

Oh man! This thread is so massive, it's starting to resemble the loss (or creation) of myths!

KT: Check out the FIRST page, post #14, and then the comments are scattered around from there. And then covered again around #220-something, and probably a couple more times between there and now. And they won't be the last. But I understand...who wants to read through 800+ posts?

Oh yeah, me!



-T

 

[Transverz]

And btw, I've had my 1210 for about 2-3 months now and can definitely say it has been a pleasure. From outdoor festivals, to small bars, to halls, to theatres, I'd have to say the cab did well in all venues. It was always loud enough and audible from all over the stage. And I only just started cranking it up recently!

Great size and weight, fun to have before, during, AND after a gig, if you know what I mean. I can get anywhere from round, mellow tones, to punchy, to all out grindy. Awesome cab for me, hands down.

Only complaint? Wish I had another one! And I'm planning on it too. Not because I need to be "louder", per se. But I recently went to a show with a Mesa 400+ and a Mesa 2x15 and loved feeling the bass kick me in my chest over and over again. I think having 2 x 1210s would pretty much do the trick, eh?

Would recommend these cabs to anyone. But I understand, hearing is believing to most people...so I suggest anyone who is curious to hear one for themselves to ask a fellow TB'er for a demo to judge for yourself. And if that's just not possible, and you are looking to a fellow TB'er to reassure you, I'll be one of the many in line to whole-heartedly say "Go for it"!

-T

 

[John D Harris]

Do a search?! What? This has NOT been covered... not ONCE.
I'm reading that these cabs seem to be ripoff of the Tech stuff "...down to the ports..."
I'd rather hear "Yea, I took the Tech cab and refined it a bit". What I'm reading is: "Through lots of trial and error I've come up with a new, better configuration of bass cab".
Looking at my Tech cab I see nothing original here.

KT

I spent 2 hours this morning trying to pick my jaw up from the floor. I've tried many of the great cabinets from many of the respected manufactures(Glock,Tech,Epifani,Bergantino,etc.) and found these to be the clearest of them all. I was very impressed by the volume and puch the speakers give with exceptionaly tight low end. They project with great athority even at far distances. They are also very efficient. It's not neccessary to own a mega-watt amp to power these cabs. As expected each bass brought it's own sound through these cabinets. Pretty much the same thing everyone else has already said.

Jorg appears to consider it a variation of the folded horn (see page 7 or 8), which it is by all appearances.

Mark;

That is not entirely correct. I only added the Schroeders to the "folded horn styled" cabinet designers. I would also like to mention that even if the Schroeders have a similarity with the older style tech soundsystem designs, that's where it exactly stops, just similarities. There are tremendous differences when it comes to components, construction and efficiency between these two cabinet makers. I would like to see someone ridiculing all the front fired cabinet makers and alleging who "copied" the design from whom? Marshall? Ampeg? ????.......(please fill in your favorite front fired cabinet maker), might be an interesting thread, nah, it would be boring.
As I've mentioned before, critique is good, and that's everyone's right, but please keep if fair and reasonable.
I gladly respond to any email directed to my in a timely manner.

thanks everyone

Jorg

A few relevant posts reposted.
The drivers are different (including tweeter) and the crossover is different. I think some of the construction techniques are different.
I have no idea how similar the enclosure is to the Tech's, apparently, it's very similar...how different, I don't know.

I do like the way my cab sounds though.

 

[KenToby]

This being the case I love my Schroeder, I mean Tech Soundsystems cab too.

All wisecracks aside, I do understand the love for the Schroeder.

Still scratching my head as to why Jorg had Tech cabs and sold them last March; Research no doubt (wise guy again).

KT

A few relevant posts reposted.
The drivers are different (including tweeter) and the crossover is different. I think some of the construction techniques are different.
I have no idea how similar the enclosure is to the Tech's, apparently, it's very similar...how different, I don't know.

I do like the way my cab sounds though.