Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

[PhatBasstard]

If you open the back panel of a Schroeder you'll find only two ports there.

The interior of my 2x12 Tech Soundsystems cab is exactly the same. It seems to work with this design.

 

[freeslicefattyj]

hey, a little irrelevant, but is the name pronounced

sh-row(as in rowboat)-der
-or-
sh-ray(as in stingray)-der

 

[Brian Barrett]

hey, a little irrelevant, but is the name pronounced

sh-row(as in rowboat)-der

 

[freeslicefattyj]

thx, ive heard the name pronounced both ways and there arent any local gurus that i ever see using those cabs, so TB is my only way of obtaining this knowledge and wisdom

 

[larrytron]

I've just used my brand new 1210 in my hard rock band's rehearsal, today.

These things are clearly awesome.
They just cut Schrough .
Everybody in the band was amazed by the sound .
Fat low end, growly mids and transparent highs. Happy I am.
The bad thing is that I want the whole line, now...

 

[Brian Barrett]

thx, ive heard the name pronounced both ways and there arent any local gurus that i ever see using those cabs, so TB is my only way of obtaining this knowledge and wisdom

no problem..... Also its Yorg (Jorg) not George, just like its Yens (Jens Ritter).............. damn Germans

 

[Juneau]

I almost posted that as well Brian

 

[Brian Barrett]

I almost posted that as well Brian

The damn German part

Actually Jorg and Jens are both awesome guys and will keep you laugh for days.... its real scary when they start talking to each other and your caught in the middle.... WOW, thats scary.....

 

[Funkengrooven]

These look real good to me, I love intelligent design and unusual applications, I just can't build them.
I would certainly buy one of the Schroeders WAY before I plunk down a grand for a sealed Bergantino. How tough is it to design a sealed box?? Especially a sealed box that does not even vertically couple?? I can even do it, but the Schroeders are different.
They look real good......any chance of Jorg coming up with one that has a pair of 15's or a 15 and a 12??

 

[Brian Barrett]

Its been talked about before, the thing is if you heard the 1212, 410, 21012 even the 310212, I think you would agree a 21512 would just be WAY overKill, but might happen if Jorg gets a wild hair and wants to kill everyone on stage with you. His design's are quite amazing at how they reproduce & cut, which is his goal being an actual gigging BASS PLAYER.........

 

[Biker4Him]

any chance of Jorg coming up with one that has a pair of 15's or a 15 and a 12??

I used to ba 15" guy as well. You've just got to hear what these cabs will do. And listening to them in bedroom just won't do. These were made for giggin. plain, simple, easy, small, fairly light, and will cut through steel faster than a Ginsu knife. And then come back and slice a tomato as delicately as french chef on Lortab.

 

[Lex P.]

Just received an email that my 1210 will be here next Tuesday. I only wish it would have arrived a bit earlier, I have a gig on Saturday night and would love to hear how it sounds live and onstage. I've been subbing in my drummers "regular" ("Squishy Mud") band and don't know how long it's going to last. They are looking for a full time player, they are booked almost every weekend, I can't devote myself to that life style. I have 2 teenagers and a wife to be a dad and husband to. So don't know when I'll be playing live again. Oh well I can always give it a good work out at practice.

I'm somewhat reluctant to post how great the cab will be because I seem to rave about some piece of equipment and then end up selling and trying something new. Perhaps this cab will finally put an end to the GAS.

 

[Juniorkimbrough]

How do the 1210's compare to the 1212's???

I'm looking into getting one, but not sure which one. I play mostly rock with a few countryish type songs.

 

[larrytron]

Here is what Brian told me about the 1210/1212:

"The 1212 will be a little smoother as well, where the 1210 has a bit more agressiveness. Booth sound killer, you might turn up a little louder on the 1212 to get the cut that the 1210 gives. The 1212 might be a little more slap happy with the smooth and rounder bottom, but the 1210 is the perfect medium between the two. the 1210 will have a little more bark."

I took the 1210.

 

[Juniorkimbrough]

THanks, that's exactly what i was wondering. I play in a rock band so I'm guessing the 1210 would fit my needs moreso than the 1212, especially trying to cut through the mix with a loud drummer and two guitarists.

 

[John D Harris]

Also, the 1212 has a rounder tone where the 1210 has more punch.
And both have a thicker low end and mid-bass tone than Jorg's cabs that just use 10" drivers (the 1010 and 410).

P.S. Of all the cabs I've ever heard, the Schroeder 410 is the King of Punch.

 

[Frank Martin]

hey, a little irrelevant, but is the name pronounced

Turn on the TV.
Switch to BBC/CNN/NBC/whatever news channel
Wait till there's a mention of the German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder.
Listen to how it's pronounced.
That's it

 

[seansbrew]

I am having a hard time deciding on which Shchroeders to buy

12x10 with 12x12 or
21012 ( larg box) as a stand alone or
21012 (large box) with 1210 ( medium box on top)
What do you guys think, I want to be able to cover all styles of music with one rig, I play 4's and fivers
Also I will be putting 1000 watts per side at 4 omhs, does anyone think this is too much?

 

[Brian Barrett]

It all depends on you. The 1212 & 1210 together would be a monster rig and yet very portable. If your wanting a larger cab for medium-large gigs then the 21012 or 410 will work perfect and a 1210 on top will make it an overly killing rig setup.

1000 watts a side for each cab will work very well and by no means to much power.

Adrian G. at access bass will be getting the line in if your close to Vegas.

 

[BurningSkies]

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So, it's been an awful, awful month...everything from illness & nearly infant death in my family, and as of this week my girlfriend of 3 years (and my best friend) decided to terminate our relationship. So, I definitely needed something of a pick-me-up right now. Luckily, my 1212 showed up on my doorstep today!

First off I have to say that Jorg is as cool as everyone has said. He was very informative and friendly, and took the time to not only communicate, but make some great, thoughtful suggestions. He made initial contact with me when I posted a question relating to my interest in a Schroeder cab in a different thread.

Since I was concerned that I might have a impedance mis-match with a 1210 (my original choice) he suggested that based upon my playing style (reggae band) and the fact that I might want to use an additional 8ohm cab, that he could provide an 8ohm 1212 that might suit my style better, and would provide the flexibilty I was concerned about.

His stated delivery time was 2 to 3 weeks after payment...but from the time payment arrived (this past Monday) it took exactly 6 days for the cabinet to arrive! Nothing to ease your new gear twitchiness than a turnaround time of less than a day! The cabinet arrived well packaged and in perfect shape. Since it's Saturday, I quickly grabbed my gear and headed off to the practice room. My setup: PRS bass or Fender Jazz (Fralin 63's) into Mesa 400+ into 1212 or 1212/SB112. Three and a half hours later I feel like I'm getting to know this cab a bit...the real test will be next week's shows.

A quick review:

400+ with 1212 alone:
Initially, this is pretty different than the 4x10/112 set up I'm used to. It has plenty of volume, but the 1212 definitely shares the mid-bump presence that the 1210 is known for. I had the amp EQ set flat to start, and had the tweeter set at 12 o'clock. Definitely punchy, and that presence is an eye opener. The bass and treble response appeared to be pretty flat, but the mids were accented. I can understand why some have been initially turned off by this tone when soloed..I found it a little boxy, and missing some of the booty in the bottom end. Since I was without my band, I put a few of my favorite 'practice' CD's to play with (Roots Radics and Sly and Robbie) on the PA and cranked it up. In this rough simulation of a band setting, the boxiness disappeared. I boosted the low on the 400+ to around 4, and it filled out the low end nicely, but without losing the definition, response and tightness of the mids. I also rolled off the tweeter a touch, to right around 11 o'clock. This boosted low/flat mid and flat or slightly cut treble is where I normally have my amp set, but with the 1212 the sound was much more focused and modern. I found that I had to be much more precise in my playing, or any sloppiness was easily apparent. This was a great sound for the modern fast-fingered reggae/dancehall feel.

400+ with 1212 and Avatar SB112:
So after an hour and a half of this feel, it was time to try the full set up. I like the 112 as a sub, so I turned the Avatar tweeter off and plugged it in. This gave more 'wooosh' to the bottom, with the tone rolled off on my bass, this was THE 70's roots sound.I switched out to my 93 Jazz loaded with 63 Fralins, and I threw Jacob Miller's "Who Say Jah No Dread" and I was home with the 'Fat Man Riddim Section'. Fat full rich lows, but still defined and tight on top. With the 400+ and 2 cabs, there was serious volume and that wall of tone that you usually only get with a full 4x10+1x15 or 8x10 speaker set up. I rolled through Concrete Jungle and a few other Aston Barrett songs just to keep the groove on and noticed that when backed up to the speakers(my defensive posture when I can't hear myself on stage), they FEEL different. There's definitely some voodoo going on with that angled speaker.

I unplugged the SB112, and thought I'd miss that feel, but was once again enjoying tight precision of the 1212 by itself. I honestly can't decide which sound I like better.

So yeah...I'll have more feel for things after next weekend, but the 1212 is definitely a keeper...even if it's a bit under represented in this thread. Tight, punchy, loud and it can handle those lows while keeping its cool and its character.