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Schroeder Cabinets ... smart design = very compact ! (regular and lights)

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Well, I am selling my last high-end guitar to buy a 1212. I rarely play guitar anymore. Usually my friends play it more than I do when they visit. Besides, I still have my beater yamaha classical. I have a mini 12+. Its great, but I can see I will need more cab for gigs.

My question is:

Do these cabs have parallel jacks (if that's the correct term) so I could plug my poweramp into one cab and use the other jack on the cab to connect it with the other cab?
 
works great ! lots of power...mid loaden sound but gooood! but u need the special cable..

uglycicles said:
I've been reading this thread with a lot of interest. I believe someone was looking at mono-bridging their SVT-4Pro into one of Jorg's 1210 cabs - any feedback on how this sounds? Transverz , I think?

Current rig is the 4Pro mono-bridged into an Eden d410xlt, which is great, but heavy. I'd love to have one cab that could do the same job at half the weight.

Thoughts?
 
lo-freq said:
Anyway, the main thing with the Schroeders is "if you haven't heard them on a gig, you haven't really heard them".

P.S. Don't know how they were set up when you played them, but they sound best horizontal on the floor, as well.


+10. My previous Mesa gear (especially my M-Pulse 600 into 2x10 PWRHSE and 1x15 PWRHSE) sounded actually a lot better to my ears just sitting in the apartment and jamming out to a CD or something. But, boost the amp and really try and push the cabs, and there's no comparison. My 1210 easily does the job of both, and I get compliments all the time. I play sometimes the same gear I have/had/used to use in GC and other shops at times, and it sounds like ass. I'm like "Wow, I actually used this?". Same kinda deal, but hey- I can't stand to play Sadowsky's or Laklands or anything Fenfer-ish, so, you're allowed that one thing! :cool:
 
seansbrew said:
One of the heads that I use with my 21012 is an svt 4 pro. This head has never sounded better. Jorgs cabs are more efficient and can handle the lows better than the BXT cabs. I am glad my friend backed out of buying my SVT 4. :)

I was actually pretty surprised at how good my ex- SVT III Pro sounded through my 1210. It really barked, even only being a 450W amp. Kinda crazy, but oh well!
 
I have a question for you that own Schroeder cabinets :)

I am interested in a 1212. If I buy a Schroeder cabinet, it would have to be my 'only' cabinet (4ohms), and I will have to sell the 2 small 8ohm cabinets I have now. The cabinets I own are about 40 pounds each. I think the Schroeder 1212 weighs around 60 pounds?

I live in the city, and have to carry my gear up and down 3 levels of small stairs. How difficult do you think the 1212 would be to carry up and down 3 levels of stairs? I do not think the weight is the important issue, but more, how easy or difficult it is to carry because of the dimensions.

Thanks in advance :)
 
rabass6 said:
The 1212 is in the 50lbs range, it's easily movable, due to it's size and well placed handles.
I guess you are right, I was mistaken! The website says 48 pounds
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I am looking at the photo on the website, and I can see a handle on the side of the cabinet, as you see here:

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Is there a handle on the top of the cabinet, too? Or, only handles on the sides? If there is not a handle on top of the cabinet, does anyone know if this is something that Mr. Schroeder would be willing to install?
 
rabass6 said:
There's another handle on the opposite side, but I think Jorg will upon request put another handle on top of the cab...

I could be wrong, but I think I heard someone say that the top/bottom mount handles are not possible...

Also, Jorg does make the 1212 in 8ohm, so you could use 2 cabs if needed...
 
BurningSkies said:
I could be wrong, but I think I heard someone say that the top/bottom mount handles are not possible...

Also, Jorg does make the 1212 in 8ohm, so you could use 2 cabs if needed...
Jorg was very nice and replied to my email quickly. He said he would have no problem instlaling a top AND bottom mount recessed spring loaded handles on the 1212. He also said that he has done this for someone else already.

I wonder if I would ever need to use more than the 1212? What is the largest size room that it would be appropriate for? Not a quiet band, not an incredibly lound band...?

rabass6 said:
Maybe a single top handle could suffice...
This is what I asked him for, initially. He then told me that he has done one recently for someone with both top and bottom, and that it worked out great.
 
I dont drive so I "carry" my entire rig for 20 minute walks, upstairs, downstairs, uphills, and onto the bus and light rail train.

I have found that a handcart/dolly with large air-filled tires is the best way to make your gear easy to move. With your 1212 strapped onto a dolly it should be very portable. Going up the stairs actually is a little easier than going down b/c gravity will pull it down fast if you are not careful.
 
VEGANBASS said:
I dont drive so I "carry" my entire rig for 20 minute walks, upstairs, downstairs, uphills, and onto the bus and light rail train.

I have found that a handcart/dolly with large air-filled tires is the best way to make your gear easy to move. With your 1212 strapped onto a dolly it should be very portable. Going up the stairs actually is a little easier than going down b/c gravity will pull it down fast if you are not careful.
I also live in the city, and if KataPolt's building/house is anything like mine, there's no chance in hell that a dolly would help on the stairs. I live on the 4th floor, and the staircase is constantly windy and narrow. Each level of the staircase curls around 3 angles, and many homes/buildings I've been in here in Boston are similar. It would take so much more effort to pull the dolly up each step than to just carry 1 cabinet at a time.

That said, I love using a dolly once I get everything outside of my building.
 
So...it's been a busy time for my little 1212.

First off, I've discovered that Jorg's customer service is second to none. I always find that the real test isn't in the purchasing process (anyone will be good to you when they want your $$$), but when theres a 'problem'.

Mine goes a little like this:

I've had my 1212 for a few months now. The first 3 or 4 shows, I definitely was having a hard time getting a 'sound'. I tried different configurations, different EQ set ups, and wasn't getting the response I wanted. I thought maybe I was asking too much from it...I need reggae lows and pretty loud stage volume, but found that any time I boosted the bass on my 400+ above 4, and played with medium stage volume it was reaching the TOF. Everyone was getting theirs loud and clean, and mine wasn't there.

Then...several weeks ago we were playing an outdoor show, that had minimal sound reinforcement, and I had my main vol turned up to 6 and my pre around 4 or so...and one song in, my 1212 sounded like a DC10 landing. I had to play like that for 3 hours. Upon getting home at midnight, I opened up the cab, and checked out the front speaker...no visible damage, the cone still moved, and no scratchy sounding voice coil. Hmmm.

I emailed Jorg after midnight on Friday night. I explained what happened, my amp settings and that there was no visible damage. He emailed me back in less than half an hour. Even though I had volunteered to pay for a new speaker, he told me he'd send me out a replacement FOR FREE right away.

When the speaker came, I installed it (in about 5 minutes), and then it was off to the practice room to try it out. It was a COMPLETELY different cab. It has the lows now, and has 'body' to its sound that wasn't there. I also, for the first time, could 'open it up', turning my amp up, boosting some low end and lettin' loose...and it does sound great. It's obvious to me that by the 'luck of the draw' my first speaker was just flawed from the manufacturer.

Friday night we played one of our regular gigs. I brought my full setup...the 1212, an Avatar SB112 and my 400+, I played my Dingwall 5. I really wanted to see how the 1212 would perform in a club that always has a loud stage volume setting. I set up the 1212 on the bottom, the SB112 on top of it. I played the first set like that...Still tweaking my tone, but definitely plenty of clean volume and lots of lows. I was having a hard time making the rig not sound 'tubby'.

Second set, I unplugged the Avatar (left it in the setup though, 'in case of'). The sound of the 1212 alone was unbelievable. Plenty loud enough, lots of tight, deep, low end, and all of the tubbiness of the first set was gone...and really really clean. After the set, I was talking to the sound guy (who we work with regularly) and he was again telling me how much he likes that rig and how the tone is awesome and I explained that I had only been using the 1212 for the second set. He freaked. He laughingly called me a pile of bad names for pulling one over on him.

I walked out of the show thinking 2 things...

1. This cab is going to be more than enough for almost all the gigs I play.

2. For any other gigs where I need a second cab, ONLY another 1212 will do.

Cheers to Jorg for being a great guy, having excellent service and producing what in my eyes is one of the best products in the world!
 
BurningSkies said:
So...it's been a busy time for my little 1212.

First off, I've discovered that Jorg's customer service is second to none. I always find that the real test isn't in the purchasing process (anyone will be good to you when they want your $$$), but when theres a 'problem'.

Mine goes a little like this:

I've had my 1212 for a few months now. The first 3 or 4 shows, I definitely was having a hard time getting a 'sound'. I tried different configurations, different EQ set ups, and wasn't getting the response I wanted. I thought maybe I was asking too much from it...I need reggae lows and pretty loud stage volume, but found that any time I boosted the bass on my 400+ above 4, and played with medium stage volume it was reaching the TOF. Everyone was getting theirs loud and clean, and mine wasn't there.

Then...several weeks ago we were playing an outdoor show, that had minimal sound reinforcement, and I had my main vol turned up to 6 and my pre around 4 or so...and one song in, my 1212 sounded like a DC10 landing. I had to play like that for 3 hours. Upon getting home at midnight, I opened up the cab, and checked out the front speaker...no visible damage, the cone still moved, and no scratchy sounding voice coil. Hmmm.

I emailed Jorg after midnight on Friday night. I explained what happened, my amp settings and that there was no visible damage. He emailed me back in less than half an hour. Even though I had volunteered to pay for a new speaker, he told me he'd send me out a replacement FOR FREE right away.

When the speaker came, I installed it (in about 5 minutes), and then it was off to the practice room to try it out. It was a COMPLETELY different cab. It has the lows now, and has 'body' to its sound that wasn't there. I also, for the first time, could 'open it up', turning my amp up, boosting some low end and lettin' loose...and it does sound great. It's obvious to me that by the 'luck of the draw' my first speaker was just flawed from the manufacturer.

Friday night we played one of our regular gigs. I brought my full setup...the 1212, an Avatar SB112 and my 400+, I played my Dingwall 5. I really wanted to see how the 1212 would perform in a club that always has a loud stage volume setting. I set up the 1212 on the bottom, the SB112 on top of it. I played the first set like that...Still tweaking my tone, but definitely plenty of clean volume and lots of lows. I was having a hard time making the rig not sound 'tubby'.

Second set, I unplugged the Avatar (left it in the setup though, 'in case of'). The sound of the 1212 alone was unbelievable. Plenty loud enough, lots of tight, deep, low end, and all of the tubbiness of the first set was gone...and really really clean. After the set, I was talking to the sound guy (who we work with regularly) and he was again telling me how much he likes that rig and how the tone is awesome and I explained that I had only been using the 1212 for the second set. He freaked. He laughingly called me a pile of bad names for pulling one over on him.

I walked out of the show thinking 2 things...

1. This cab is going to be more than enough for almost all the gigs I play.

2. For any other gigs where I need a second cab, ONLY another 1212 will do.

Cheers to Jorg for being a great guy, having excellent service and producing what in my eyes is one of the best products in the world!
Glad you & Jorg got everything straightened out.
 
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