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[funky_bass_guy]

It's funny,
I was in a Music store here in Hawaii on the Island of Oahu the other day.
I am trying to sell my Bag End Cabs.
The 1210 does the work of two.
(so bye,bye Bag Ends)
I mentioned Shroeders and the owner just looked wide eyed at me.
He simply doesn't know about Jorg's great products.
It's a hoot to me that such a great cab goes un-noticed in my part of the world.
And that ain't the first time.

Heh you mention Bag End over here and you will get people going

 

[funky_bass_guy]

Your post didn't quite do it

edit; and mine didn't either..

Heh good try Will I do it?

 

[Tom Neves]

Heh you mention Bag End over here and you will get people going

Yea,
I know what you mean!
I still like the B Ends, I just like the Shroeder more.



Hey,
There for sale you know?
Go for it!

 

[John D Harris]

I have, & am very pleased with the results. As I see it, when you couple with the floor, the resonant freq. problems become complex, unpredictable, & at times uncontrollable, turning most places into the "Boom-Boom Room".
IMO, the Gramma breaks that connection, focussing the tone simply by unmasking it. That loss of "boom" is a kind of low end attenuation (there is no free lunch). If I feel I need more bottom, I can EQ it, place the cab near the back wall or in a corner. However, I find that in a band situation, the rich lows we all love get lost in the sauce, so to speak, anyway& it's those focussed low mids that my 1210 is so good at that cut through & get the job done.
It was a small investment & well worth it.

Thanks.

Yeah, that's sort of what I figured.

I bet the cabs with one or more 12" drivers sound better with the gramma than the 410 (or 1010) with less EQ'ing.

For my tastes, the cabs with 12(s) are almost too bassy, but I think most people seem to disagree with my tastes in low end.
I like it a little on the lean side, but solid, fast, punchy, & articulate. To me, this really works well in a live band setting.
The 410 with the system I have is extremely good at providing that, plus, if I want a phatter low end, I can dial it in very easily.

As you say, with the gramma you can always EQ back in how ever much lows you like.

 

[andrewd]

Is anyone else using a Bmax with a 1210 or other schroeder?

I'm having issues getting the settings good...(I'm really bad at setting up my tone on amps...I really suck at it). I seem to be losing all my presence when I move off of my E string(tuned to C#...but not by my choice) and my E seems a lil boomy, but I expect that since I have to detune so much.

I've tried various settings but mostly keep it flat and I'm getting frustrated, heh. At next practice I think I may try setting the 1210 verticle to see if that helps. Even my bandmates said it seemed like I was just dropping out a lot.

I am. So far, in solo playing and jamming with a guitar playing friend, it sounds great. I haven't really changed the settings very much from my old cab (ampeg 410)

 

[John D Harris]

...
I seem to be losing all my presence when I move off of my E string(tuned to C#...but not by my choice) and my E seems a lil boomy, but I expect that since I have to detune so much.
...

If you only want a 4 string bass, maybe you'd be better off stringing it BEAD -- you'll get better string tension and tone.

 

[SnoMan]

If you only want a 4 string bass, maybe you'd be better off stringing it BEAD -- you'll get better string tension and tone.

I've been tempted to do that, but not happy enough with my other basses(which are on the selling block) to dedicate to my only current gigging band and I like playing too much in standard to warrant changing it's strings. I'll have to try schecter's BEAD bass once I get these basses sold.

I do have the Bmax set flat per its instructions. I'll have to try dropping off the bass and do some more work with the semi-para next practice.

 

[Larry Kaye]

I got plenty of bottom end with a 1210. My Acoustic Image Focus head adds some low end, a tad, a touch, a tweak, but not a ton, the cabinet I think has a decent amount, and my bass definitely has a bunch of boost, especially the last quarter turn of the bass knob....however, most places I've played don't require the bottom to be boosted that heavily all night. When the crowd is "leaner" in numbers, I don't push the bottom up so much....when we're playing outside, which I did yesterday for the first time, I had the bottom cranked on a few tunes, and then decided and actually preferred the quicker, punchier tone I can get by boosting the mids on my bass and cutting the lows down to flat or even slightly lower, and then turning the volume up slightly. That tone just cut through for days!!! Alright Now never sounded so good. Also used the setting for Love is Alive. I do the keybass part from the record (of course..what else should I be playing) and there was no doubt of the Schroeder's ability to handle high volume levels with excellent tone outdoors. I'm very confident it can handle any concert situation outside now in addition to all smaller to midsize clubs my bands play at.

I really wanted to be the first one on the 100th page. I guess there was no prize!!!

Lkaye

 

[troll]

I've been tempted to do that, but not happy enough with my other basses(which are on the selling block) to dedicate to my only current gigging band and I like playing too much in standard to warrant changing it's strings. I'll have to try schecter's BEAD bass once I get these basses sold.

I do have the Bmax set flat per its instructions. I'll have to try dropping off the bass and do some more work with the semi-para next practice.

Yeah a different axe or electronics is sometimes needed. I have had several basses that just sounded horrible tuned down, no matter if I used different gauge strings and set it up for it, it was just a combination of pickups and the woods used that they didn't like it.

But back on topic, still love my 3101212.

I can echo the sentiment mentioned here several times. Every time I see another band or whatever, I always want to approach them and let them in on the secret. Especially when it's a guy who is playing his ass off but sounds terrible through some massive oversized name brander that they lug around.

 

[Brennan]

Larry, do you have any problems with dialing in highs with your Focus/Shroeder setup? I can't get any crisp even with my treble boost on the onboard pre. I'm wondering if I have a problem.

 

[Larry Kaye]

Sorry if I'm being a bit ignorant here, which Schroeder do you have and what bass are you using? I'm not sure which tweeter I have in my cabinet frankly. Jorg was building a prototype using Selenium speakers rather than his stock offering. So , to answer your question, I have the original, almost 11 month old strings, (Lull roundwounds), I have the tone control all the way up and the treble control boosted between 75 and 100% on the bass, on the head I have the treble and brite knobs turned up close to 100%, and have the attenuator on the cabinet at around 50% most of the time.

I would venture to say that if I change strings at this point and leave all settings the same, that maybe not breaking glass treble but certainly hearing damaging treble would be the result.

You may want to see if Jorg can fix you up with a different, higher db tweeter, but there's obviously other factors. My Lull bass is a totally single coil, non-humbucker situation, There is no damping of the high end from the instrument to the head. There's certainly no "interference" from the head and it slightly boosts the highs, but it's subtle, not dramatic just as it is with the bottom end.

My passive Lull's have more highs and less bottom end. They still sound good, but I need to play with my outboard 31 band eq to get the low end similar to my active bass boosted phatness., but you're not asking about that.are you? OK, however....the passive lull's need to have the treble roll off, tone control turned slightly down vs my active bass. Could be the bass, could be the strings are 4 months fresher? I don't know.

Write me back about which Schroeder you have and which bass, and strings/age, etc.

L

 

[Brian Barrett]

Larry, do you have any problems with dialing in highs with your Focus/Shroeder setup? I can't get any crisp even with my treble boost on the onboard pre. I'm wondering if I have a problem.

Sounds like you might have a tweeter that got damaged in shipping. I always get the regular titanium tweeter's because they have plenty or bright click with out the hiss noise. I never have any problem getting click for slapping with the eq on the AI set flat and the bright is 3 oclock. I run the knob on the back of the cab at 12-3 Oclock usually.

To test the tweeter, plug the cab up to the AI and turn treb and all up to make it easier on you and turn the knob on the back of the cab from one side and then to the other and see if you hear a slight sizzle. You will need to but your ear right in front of it. If you hear nothing then the tweeter either can unhooked in shipping or is damaged.

I'll be happy to walk you through this process if you would like or Jorg can. Just e-mail and send either of us a number to reach you at.

 

[iriegnome]

Yesterday, I talked with James Hart about a very minor thing that Jorg and I had discussed. James did some checking and took care of it. Right away!!! I was needless to say very pleased and impressed. Not only do you talk directly with Jorg at Schroeder, but he is a great guy to talk with and over whelmingly easy to work with and talk to. AND the people that work with him and around him are equally nice and fantastic to work with.

For me - - Customer service is as important as the product. The Schroeder cabinets are fantastic and so are the people that work for and with Jorg.... I truely am humbled by the level of service and customer care I have gotten!!!

 

[slombovia]

Hey guys, I am considering a more portable rig. I thought an AI Focus (under 4 lbs in my gig bag!) into a 4 ohm Schroeder to get the full 600 watts.

Would a Mini 12+ cut it? Or should I get a 1210 or 1212? I almost always have a good PA but the drummer in my busiest gig is VERY loud. Thanks.

 

[rabass6]

A Focus into a Schroeder 1210 is an impressive rig, full and deep.
Just ask Jorg

 

[Esquillama]

A Focus into a Schroeder 1210 is an impressive rig, full and deep.

This is the rig I'm currently Drooling over!
Portability, power, punch...... man I need money.

 

[popinfresh]

This threads slowed down, what's going on!

My 410's shipped and all. But been delayed!

It should arrive next monday though

Weeeeeeee.

 

[iriegnome]

Hey guys, I am considering a more portable rig. I thought an AI Focus (under 4 lbs in my gig bag!) into a 4 ohm Schroeder to get the full 600 watts.

Would a Mini 12+ cut it? Or should I get a 1210 or 1212? I almost always have a good PA but the drummer in my busiest gig is VERY loud. Thanks.

I have the Mini 12 and a 1212. Both of mine are 8 Ohm. I would not hesitate at all using either one for a gig. I use a SWR Bass 750. So, running it at 4 Ohms, I get 850 watts. Perfect.

 

[basss]

Iriegnome,
How does the sound of the 1212 and mini 12 compare? Obviously the 1212 is louder but how bout in terms of tone?

 

[iriegnome]

Iriegnome,
How does the sound of the 1212 and mini 12 compare? Obviously the 1212 is louder but how bout in terms of tone?

I do not have the horn in my Mini 12. Tone wise, my Mini 12 took the place of my SWR Big Ben 118! The 1212 is my all around cabinet. It is fit for everything out there. I put my Mini on top to the 1212 to round out the big low end stuff and when I am playing more then a 4 string. It is unbeleiveable the bass that comes out of these cabinets. I do not really think that the 1212 and my Mini 12 compare. They are pretty close, but nothing alike. As a pair they complete a big fat Phat sound for me. I also have custom EMG pickups with the BQS system in it.