This makes me wonder...has this "band" gotten together or rehearsed since the BL went into the studio?
I agree
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Should I bail?
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Leave. Life is too short to play with hacks.
I fully realize that servitude is most of what you get as a bass player (and I’m paid well for it) but I don’t think the OP is getting paid either
i think that's because you'll find plenty of people aren't earning a significant amount of money by playing music and are in it for things other than getting paid, even if the $ is enough to buy a few pizzas....
This. There's nothing worse in a creative situation than being relegated to the role of an interface for somebody else's ideas. Especially when there's nothing else in it for you.
If you are a pro getting paid for your services, it's a mutually beneficial relationship. If you still feel like a lackey in that case, you'd do well to find a different line of work.
If he's that impatient and doesn't have the sense or ear to hear how bad it sounds (as you described it), I really don't see that changing anytime soon....or at all IME.
The question is: Is a problematic band a better situation than no band at all?
Don't know if anyone has suggested this already or not, but if he sucks at bass and isn't Guthrie Govan or whatever on guitar....why don't you and the sensible guitarist both leave and do your own thing together? Amputate the bad toe instead of the whole leg, IMO. That way you've got a larger pool of members (easier to recruit that way) and can still be writing songs in the meantime while looking for new bandmates.
The question is: Is a problematic band a better situation than no band at all?
Don't know if anyone has suggested this already or not, but if he sucks at bass and isn't Guthrie Govan or whatever on guitar....why don't you and the sensible guitarist both leave and do your own thing together? Amputate the bad toe instead of the whole leg, IMO. That way you've got a larger pool of members (easier to recruit that way) and can still be writing songs in the meantime while looking for new bandmates.
I've read what some think you should do roughly 3 ways. Run, send a text or email, or, face to face conversation with the whole band. I will say this. Send a text or email, simple, cowards way out. If you don't have the stones to do this in person, you just need to leave. Just run, OK, without a personal conversation, what does that tell the rest of the band? Not to mention you may be the only one gone? They will find another bass player. Is everyone on the same page about this? Do you know? If you chose to bail without an attempt to save your only project without possible resolution, isn't this cutting your nose off to spite your face?
If after a necessary face conversation its realized that nothing is going to change, or the conversation becomes confrontational, then it's time to leave.
If after a necessary face conversation its realized that nothing is going to change, or the conversation becomes confrontational, then it's time to leave.
Yes, bail. Find a good cover band with gigs on the books. If you want to write and record original material on the side you can do that too.
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Best to just have a FULL band meeting in person. Explain your concerns and let him explain his.
Then get opinion of other musician(s) and go from there.
If he "listens to you and follows your guidance" then see what the attitude is towards next couple of practices.
IF he wants you to record the basslines over for him then have him send the files and record them at home. (if possible)
Then get opinion of other musician(s) and go from there.
If he "listens to you and follows your guidance" then see what the attitude is towards next couple of practices.
IF he wants you to record the basslines over for him then have him send the files and record them at home. (if possible)
Delusions of grandeur is an annoying trait in a bandmate. A drummer in one of my bands has it and it’s kind of exhausting but doesn’t go anywhere so it’s not a deal breaker
Inexperienced bad musicians in the studio will make you loose all faith in humanity. Dude did you a massive favor here. As long as he's not making you pay him back.
Dude is treating you like a hired gun. That isn't an issue as long as you are getting paid. No pay? Then you are a hired gun working for free. Decide your worth and demand it.
"childlike" (honesty) trumps "childish" (silly/immature) almost always. and where does an attempt at 'getting even' really get us?
if you've already made up your mind (and now you're seeking affirmation from an anonymous herd) then you may not be up for a real task...
whining and quitting are tools used by people who are afraid of adulting.
don't be one of them, OP! seek resolution/closure/whatever, but get some personal understanding of what it is you need to do. talk it over/out with the guy and see for yourself what a difference it makes to show some real respect for yourself.
good luck!
^This.
It's obvious the OP values the collaboration. It is not a pro level project, and the OP doesn't present himself as a pro level player. Amateurs that expect professional behavior 100% of the time, without having to talk about things, are going to have a tough time finding and staying in a band.
I would probably ghost him. And I'm not sure I'm kidding.
Tell him his 'solo EP' is on him, and will not be used to secure paying gigs, or as part of any press pack.
Keep referring to it as his 'solo EP.'
Laugh with the others about his 'solo EP.'
Keep referring to it as his 'solo EP.'
Laugh with the others about his 'solo EP.'
