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Should I Lend out my Rig?

#81
Does your guitarist know how much you have invested in your rig that he so gladly offered up for (free) use? Shame on him for doing this, and shame on him for giving you a hard time when you refused.

As for professionals travelling w/o gear or instruments, I guess it's not that uncommon. I was asked to rent my bass for a show by the company doing the sound/stage for some Disney pop artist's backing band. I didn't do it because I felt uncomfortable but they didn't give me a hard time about it...they ended up renting one from GC.
Also, one of my keyboardists that I gig w/ does a bunch of different "tribute band" shows and one involved him being in a Jethro Tull band when Dave Pegg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Pegg )came to town with his Mandolin show. Dave did his gig he was touring for, and then did the Tull thing with this band afterward. That was the only time I lent my bass out....they already had a backline. I was scared, but it came back in one piece none the worse. Doubt I'll ever do it again though, even though it's only a 2005 MIA Fender Jazz fiver.
 
#82
If you're the founding member of the band, I think you should start looking for a new guitar player that won't promise to lend out your stuff without asking you first and then give you grief about it when you won't play along and agree let your equipment get ruined by complete strangers. Would he let you pull that crap with HIS guitars and his amp?!? Somehow I don't think so. :rollno: Some friend he is. Your guitar player is showing a significant lack of respect to you and your stuff, and frankly I wouldn't want a guy like that in my band.

Best of luck to you.

MLF
 
#85
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! But if you do, take it to the show, stare at it thruout the show, carry it home after the show, and don't let anyone touch it between any of that. Also, I would advise you to take possesion of his soul, only to be returned after the show.
 
#88
One additional note... don't expect a contract to protect you. If the guy is a slimeball who is too broke to have a rig (probably pawned it to finance his Habits), then getting money out of him will never happen.

In my view, contracts work if both parties are honest to begin with.
 
#91
jmattbassplaya said:
I`ve read all the horror stories, but I figured I`d just ask to see if I`m over thinking this or not.

Basically, my guitarist just called and was telling me all about some band he knows back from Memphis who`s playing a gig up here in Knoxville tomorrow for a frat party around 3pm (early party). Apparently, neither their drummer or bassist could fit their gear in their cars so they asked my guitarist if our drummer and I minded if they used our gear.

Our drummer has already dealt with theirs before and says he`s a good guy and that he has no problem lending out his set to him, but I`ve honestly never met their bassist (or any of those guys) before so I`m pretty hesitant to say yes. Supposedly these guys are professionals (according to my drummer and guitarist) and have played with bands like North Mississippi All Stars, but I`m hesitant to agree when this band comes up to a gig without all the gear needed to pull off a show :eyebrow:

My guitarist says their bassist will have a sit down with me tonight to discuss this situation if I want to, but I almost feel like just giving them the number to the local music rental shop. I just don`t find it fair or cool for someone who I don`t know to expect me to do them a favor in the name of music - especially without even offering compensation upfront (albeit, all communication so far has been through my guitarist).

I dunno :(

Do you think it`s worth taking the risk of lending out nearly $3,000 worth of gear just to keep face with my band?

:help::help::help:
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No, I never lend my gear, ever, period!!!!
 
#92
Update

I went to our rehearsal space last night for a quick hour jam with my band and their guys were suppose to show up... Nada. No one came to discuss the amp so I told the guitarist no and I just called him again and left him a message to remind him that my rig isn't leaving the rehearsal space today for any reason.

While I feel like this should be the end of this ordeal, I have the feeling that I need to go to our rehearsal space just to make sure they didn't take it... some life, eh?
 
#94
Nope, I borrowed a friend a bass Squier VM P, my backup, so his bp could use it, never got it back, all I got was $100 from my "friend". Still pissed about it and it happened 2 years ago. Frat party equals a big no in my book. Sometime ya got to be a dink.
 
#95
Miccisicks said:
No dude don't lend out anything you can't afford to replace..
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You mean, anything the borrower cant afford to replace, right? :D




I use to roadie for a local act and their bass player ( who was a good friend) typically played through my rig. but then I was the one doing the hauling and set-up and I was present at the gigs.

Personally I never let material possessions come between friendships.

That said...

Would I lend any of the gear I have owned over the years to some stranger..... Ummmmm...



HECK NO!







Oh and if my rig was "taken" in such a scenario, I wouldn't be able to respect or trust such a band mate; I wouldn't call them a friend, that's for sure. Honestly, I wouldn't be able to be in a band with someone that had such a set of ethics and morals. Ignorant and inconsiderate people seriously irk me.
 
#96
Never mind if the guy is trustworthy or not, do you really want your gear laying around in a frat house if you can't be there to protect it? I don't care how early it starts, a good frat party won't be over til the sun comes up. And even if they leave early, they have to fight their way through all that mess to get it out of there... nothing against frat houses, but I've seen what your gear would be up against, and I wouldn't do it.
 
#98
jmattbassplaya said:
Update

I went to our rehearsal space last night for a quick hour jam with my band and their guys were suppose to show up... Nada. No one came to discuss the amp so I told the guitarist no and I just called him again and left him a message to remind him that my rig isn't leaving the rehearsal space today for any reason.

While I feel like this should be the end of this ordeal, I have the feeling that I need to go to our rehearsal space just to make sure they didn't take it... some life, eh?
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I think you are wise to mistrust them. It's the old "better-safe-than-sorry" routine. So you spent a few hours down at the rehearsal space - thats better than spending $3000 on a new rig. Sounds like you need a new guitar player.

Let us know what happens.
 
#99
Hayseed said:
Actually the guitarist and this "awesome, professional band" are the dinks.

But you will cross into the Dink Zone if you don't just flat out tell them "NO" without hemming and hahing about it.

BTW: How much money has your Guitarist spent on his equipment? Did his mommy and daddy buy it for him? I'm guessing the jackass has no clue what gear costs.
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He knows how much mine costs, although he doesn't believe me when I say a SS bass head can cost around $1,300... I honestly dont think he buys his own gear. His family is loaded and he acts as if money is a none issue. Good for him if it isn't - but it is for me. I guess I'll be heading to our space to 'practice' in the next hour or so (this is ridiculous :rollno:)
 

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