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So this thing followed me home ....
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Yes, it's not what you'd ordinarily call a copy, since Peerless was OEM for Epiphone and built the JC basses for them from the outset. When Epi saw fit to move production, the Koreans just made some small changes to the headstock and pickguard, and went on building under the "Bassmaster" sobriquet. - The bridge on mine is a Babicz replacement part, but the original says [Epiphone] on the underside. I guess they still had hardware in stock and needed to use it up.
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My late father used a saying, that rings true far too often, " They may be wrong, but they're never in doubt".
+1001!.
I had a friend back in high school who thought it was pronounced "Le Paul" (he actually had a "Le Paul" as well!) and adamantly believed Les Paul was not a person.
Good looking bass! It looks a lot like a guitar my buddy built, same color and all.
AND????? Has built a bass that is just as hot as any relic on the market IMOI play 150-200 shows a year ...which is a LOT less than I used to. I play music for a living
AND????? Has built a bass that is just as hot as any relic on the market IMO
Thank you for the kind words!
To be fair, he did follow that with "in my experience." (IME)
I don't think any of this is worth getting riled up over. It's just wood, wires, and a difference of opinions....Life is too good to spend worrying about things like this.
For sure! I just don't see the need to rain on someone's NBD parade, so thought I'd push back a bit.To be fair, he did follow that with "in my experience." (IME)
I don't think any of this is worth getting riled up over. It's just wood, wires, and a difference of opinions....Life is too good to spend worrying about things like this.
Enjoy the JC and please report back once you get a chance to play it with a band.
Its much more disrespectful and patronizing to withhold a simple non offensive opinion because people might disagree with it. I have taken debate in school, and people would do well to understand how to argue ideas better. I have found especially on this forum for some reason (possibly because its fairly specialized) that anytime you express a dissenting opinion, people automatically go in for the ad hominem rather than trying to argue the point. Debate teaches you to only address the points. Otherwise anyone can say things like "you think you know everything", "you need to learn humility" or "are you calling me a liar?". Then youd devolve into a college campus style safe space microaggression culture where no dissenting ideas are heard. Its human nature to have an irrational emotional reaction to an idea you disagree with, so you attack the source rather than the idea, but thats no different than shooting the messenger.
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I'll bite.
I think the issue here is that though debate is part of what happens here on talkbass and we do seek to convince others of our opinions, it's not really about debate and the proving of one point over another. Talkbass is not a debate class. it's about conversation and discussion. It's about "talking".
If you are really intersted in conversation (or even in accurate debate for that matter) then perhaps opening with blanket statements about how your way is better and telling the OP they should buy less and practice more are less than productive. Instead, you might try gathering the background information (essential for any debate or discussion) by asking the OP why they buy so many instruments, what they do with the instruments, their musical involvement. etc. In this way you would gather the information you would need to "only address the points" accurately.
In this particular case it would have prevented you from looking foolish when you critizicized the buying and practice habits of a particular member only to find afterwards that they are a professional who makes their living playing music.
Anywho, after gathering information, rather than "telling" someone what they should do, you could make a suggestion. "Have you considered..." "I have found that..." etc, are ways of phrasing such suggestions so that you don't come across as a jerk.
All this to say, tone and knowing the facts of a situation are important. Taking the time to find the actual facts of a situation and then engaging in conversation rather than some kind of dry debate will result in a more fruitful discussion and might also cause people to take your opinions more seriously.
But surely if you are presenting a POV as vastly superior and backing up your assertion with 'ime', those you are trying to convince might be entitled to know a little more about what 'ime' actually consists of?
IME, in the past few days have been lucky enough to pick up a full-size hollow body bass, and a fretless bass....both things that I did not currently have. I may only use the fretless for one or two recording gigs a year, but if that investment yields me 1000 extra dollars in sessions, seems like that's a pretty good investment... regardless of whether it's materialistic or not to own it. 
Besides, I enjoy owning a variety of instruments. It's fun. Plus different instruments inspire me to play different ways, which I think is a very good thing.
To sum it all up... carrots and Aquaman.
Besides, I enjoy owning a variety of instruments. It's fun. Plus different instruments inspire me to play different ways, which I think is a very good thing.
To sum it all up... carrots and Aquaman.
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You can say that about any post on this entire forum. The fact is that people are emotional even on the internet, and if they hear something that they dont like, regardless of the merits, they will go in for the kill. The OP is the exception, he can take criticism and calmly argue against it without getting all pissy and personal. People jusd need to learn to treat ideas objectively. But as we see on college campus safe spaces these days, the trend is going towards people not even considering opposing ideas, because they identify with their own so much.
Anyway, as far as my experience, i know psychology and compulsive behavior, and definitley gear lust and shopping addiction. You can always try to justify compulsive behavior, but the fact is that its part of human behavior, hence those hoarding shows. Those nuts also say they need everything that their houses are crammed with. They could also argue that its offensive to tell them otherwise.
