• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#10,561
Collating the answers from Gib210 and Matty Koff, both hubs should be set to MIDI out? One post says one thing, the next says differently. I figure to have a channel designation to give me the most options in this learning experience. Would that mean having both hubs on the same channel would get the correct presets combinations, granted the scenes are saved on both units for a set of parameters? Thanks to all for the assistance.
 
#10,562
Discount Bassy said:
Collating the answers from Gib210 and Matty Koff, both hubs should be set to MIDI out? One post says one thing, the next says differently. I figure to have a channel designation to give me the most options in this learning experience. Would that mean having both hubs on the same channel would get the correct presets combinations, granted the scenes are saved on both units for a set of parameters? Thanks to all for the assistance.
Click to expand...

From what I understood, put them on the same channel, have soleman midi out to hub 1 (hub 1 set to midi through), into hub 2 (set to midi out) back into the soleman.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gibs210
#10,563
Discount Bassy said:
Collating the answers from Gib210 and Matty Koff, both hubs should be set to MIDI out? One post says one thing, the next says differently. I figure to have a channel designation to give me the most options in this learning experience. Would that mean having both hubs on the same channel would get the correct presets combinations, granted the scenes are saved on both units for a set of parameters? Thanks to all for the assistance.
Click to expand...

No. The hub receiving the midi out from the soleman needs to be set to midi through, and that hub needs to connect to the midi in of the second hub, and the second hub needs to be set to midi out, and then to the soleman.

In hindsight, I used "Hub 1" as a designator in my previous post as a matter of rank/importance, but is actually the second hub in the midi chain, and the one that will be sending names back to the soleman when you label them as you save them in the desktop editor.


switching scenes sends program change commands.. basically cycling 0-127, 0 being the first channel. So when you cycle channels via the soleman, for example from 0 to 1, it's basically just sending a command that says "change to 1".. from 1 to 2, it sends "program change to 2". The macros within the soleman in scene mode are cycling program change messages, but it's not saying "Up or down" to the hubs.. it's saying "Go to program #". So both hubs will be in sync the first time you cycle scenes.

Just keep all the pedals on the same channel for now, there's not really a benefit to changing the pedal channels in scene mode, and I'd recommend wrapping your head around the plug and play functionality of the soleman and hubs before attempting panel mode. It might be all you need.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Mohawk
#10,564
Discount Bassy said:
Collating the answers from Gib210 and Matty Koff, both hubs should be set to MIDI out? One post says one thing, the next says differently. I figure to have a channel designation to give me the most options in this learning experience. Would that mean having both hubs on the same channel would get the correct presets combinations, granted the scenes are saved on both units for a set of parameters? Thanks to all for the assistance.
Click to expand...

Gibs didn't say differently, he summarized it better. Follow the steps in my original response to you and you're golden, no need to change channels in scene mode.
 
#10,565
Very cool. Thanks to you both for you help. I have been piling up the pieces for this project for months and have hit the point of putting things together with a bit of trepidation. I guess the mysterious part for me is figuring out what is going on. I spent 20-odd years as a mechanic and knowledge of operational specifics is key. With this MIDI stuff, you get to know it works, but there is an amount of mystery involved that shakes me some. I am used to being able to examine things on a functional level. You can't monitor the messages, only see the results.

Again, gentlemen, thank you for your patience and assistance.
 
#10,566
I recently bought a second hand Reflex and holy moly does it open up a world of possibilities. It is such a shame that it was discontinued and the User LFO will never be developed.

I hooked it up to my HXFX and sent the Sample Hold to the harmonizer so it would create random harmonies and also randomize the rate of a pattern trem. Glitch city. It made my board feel like a modular synth.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gibs210 and GMC
#10,567
Discount Bassy said:
Very cool. Thanks to you both for you help. I have been piling up the pieces for this project for months and have hit the point of putting things together with a bit of trepidation. I guess the mysterious part for me is figuring out what is going on. I spent 20-odd years as a mechanic and knowledge of operational specifics is key. With this MIDI stuff, you get to know it works, but there is an amount of mystery involved that shakes me some. I am used to being able to examine things on a functional level. You can't monitor the messages, only see the results.

Again, gentlemen, thank you for your patience and assistance.
Click to expand...
You can monitor the messages actually. Use something like MIDIOX on desktops or MIDI mechanic on iOS devices.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mohawk
#10,568
8531C754-C6EA-46FE-90D9-FE57ADD6A57D.png
Just hit 2000 downloads (actually missed it). Thanks to my followers. I’d do something to celebrate but am away from my gear for another ten days or so. Looking forward to hearing what you’re all doing with my patches.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ba55Man1ac, DrMole, Witness412 and 3 others
#10,569
Gibs210 said:


Tried this with a Meloaudio exp 001. When trying on patches the pedal seems to only have an effect on the sound over a very narrow range toward the bottom of the pedal. Is there some kind of sensitivity calibration I should be doing?

0 Tube Drive - Marshall amp-style overdrive
1 Smooth Tube - Mesa boogie pre amp distortion
2 Power Stage - Fulltone Distortion Pro
3 Crunch Tube - Our own distortion, not based on any particular sound. It’s a more aggressive tube distortion.
4 TS9000 - Ibanez Tube Screamer
5 Big Pi - EHX Big Muff Pi
6 El Raton - ProCo Rat
7 Fuzz Façade - Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face
8 Bender - Tone Bender mk II
9 Metal - EHX Metal Muff
10 Octave Fuzz - Octavia
11 Gated Fuzz - inspired by the Woolly Mammoth, but not very close at all. (rsmith601's words, not mine)
12 Bass Tube Drive
13 Bass Smooth Tube
14 Bass Power Stage
15 Bass Crunch Tube
16 Bass TS9000
17 Bass Big Pi
18 Bass El Raton
19 Bass Fuzz Façade
20 Bass Bender
21 Bass Metal
22 Bass Octave Fuzz
23 Bass Gated Fuzz
24 Gated Fuzz II - original
25 Gated Fuzz III - original
26 TS 9001 - Ibanez TS 808?
27 Maestro FZ-1A - Maestro FZ-1A
28 Bigger Pi - Skreddy Mayonnaise
29 Foldover - original
30 OhSeeDee - Fulltone OCD
31 Fuzz Face II
32 DS-1 - Boss DS-1
33 Rat II
34 Bender II
35 Metal II
36 Octave II
37 Smoked Glass C4L - Darkglass B3K
38 38 Special - original
39 Smooth Tube II
40 Power Stage II
41 Crunch Tube II
42 Grated Bass - original
43 Clean
44 Smoked Glass D5M – Darkglass B3K
45 The Klone - Klon Centaur
46 Pepperface Fuzz - Analogman Peppermint Fuzz
47 Vari-Screamer - Nobels ODR-1 Natural Drive
48 Foldover II - Original
49 Germanium Muffin - Germanium EHX Big Muff
Click to expand...
 
#10,570
Are you doing the first step of sweeping the expression pedal all the way back and forth? That’s the calibration. Otherwise you can try manually adjusting it using the desktop editor.
 
#10,579
BunchyMutt said:
The app just isn't doing anything. I received it a few days ago and haven't had a chance to dedicate time to troubleshooting yet, thought I'd see if there was a known issue and or quick fixes. Sounds like it should work though :thumbsup:
Click to expand...
Try the calibration process located in the gear icon at the top right of the screen in the main pedal selection menu.
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back