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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#12,802
bassbrad said:
Can you suggest a patch(es) that really show that feature well?

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Not sure that it fulfills the "showing it well"requirement, but I went back to a preset I did about a month ago, which I thought was multiband trem, but turned out not to have been, so, tonight, I set about modifying that single band trem patch into a multiband one. I had a lot of fun with the expression pedal on this and the previous one, which I also published just now. For the older one, I edited the song down and remixed it and left the clean bass only to emphasize the tremolo for the clip link. I think I used the Aftershock for a Tube Screamer in the older one, and did for on guitar track on the multiband, but tried to stick to mainly the UW.

Multiband:

Single band:
 
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#12,803
AlvarHanso said:
Not sure that it fulfills the "showing it well"requirement, but I went back to a preset I did about a month ago, which I thought was multiband trem, but turned out not to have been, so, tonight, I set about modifying that single band trem patch into a multiband one. I had a lot of fun with the expression pedal on this and the previous one, which I also published just now. For the older one, I edited the song down and remixed it and left the clean bass only to emphasize the tremolo for the clip link. I think I used the Aftershock for a Tube Screamer in the older one, and did for on guitar track on the multiband, but tried to stick to mainly the UW.

Multiband:

Single band:
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Thanks for that @AlvarHanso interesting tracks. I've sampled the sounds that @NPappas suggested and created a couple from those and shared one to the Neuro Cloud.
 
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#12,807
I'm all onboard with the idea of a pitchshifter, but I think people want different things out of it. These seem to fall into three categories:
  • Transposer (drop tuner or virtual capo)
  • Harmonizer (self-explanatory)
  • Bleep and bloop machine (delayed shifts, etc.)
My "pitch" for a shifter is simple: Digitech Drop polyphonic quality or better (including the attack / tone / low latency) with Eventide's Pitchflex algorithm parameters and options.

Is this too much to ask? It seems the answer is "yes" but I'd like someone to prove me wrong.
 
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Adamixoye said:
I'm all onboard with the idea of a pitchshifter, but I think people want different things out of it. These seem to fall into three categories:
  • Transposer (drop tuner or virtual capo)
  • Harmonizer (self-explanatory)
  • Bleep and bloop machine (delayed shifts, etc.)
My "pitch" for a shifter is simple: Digitech Drop polyphonic quality or better (including the attack / tone / low latency) with Eventide's Pitchflex algorithm parameters and options.

Is this too much to ask? It seems the answer is "yes" but I'd like someone to prove me wrong.
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I'm with you - the Pitchfactor algos with the Digitech tracking - but I think it is a lot to ask. Neither the Digitech (2014, but based on Whammy DT in 2011) nor the Eventide (2010, but algos are based on older rack gear) are all that recent. EHX continues to put out pitch effects but never fully checks all of these boxes - the Pitch Fork Plus gets close, but where is the MIDI??
 
#12,809
benevan said:
I'm with you - the Pitchfactor algos with the Digitech tracking - but I think it is a lot to ask. Neither the Digitech (2014, but based on Whammy DT in 2011) nor the Eventide (2010, but algos are based on older rack gear) are all that recent. EHX continues to put out pitch effects but never fully checks all of these boxes - the Pitch Fork Plus gets close, but where is the MIDI??
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I don't know if it was a typo or if I'm not understanding your point. I think you meant it's not too much to ask based on the fact that these are older algos. The fact that this is an obvious way to push forward is a frustration to me.

I have played the Pitch Fork Plus and the EHX IHM and preferred the Digitech tone, in addition to the MIDI issue. YMMV.
 
#12,810
I'd be all over a pitch shifter, especially with two ins/outs and programmable routing options. The tracking algorithm on c4 and nemesis are so good, "just" the latency needs to be worked out and the wobbly sound quality. A SA pitch shifter would likely also feature some basic distortion/dirt options, similar to the C4/Spectrum, as that'd smooth out the upper transposed notes which tend to get a bit robot-like.
Anyways, I bit the bullet and ordered a regular EHX pitchfork and am excited about the pog-y sound and the option to use it like a whammy. What's also cool is that that pedal takes expression pedal as well as CV signal so I could send signals from my keystep or something more automatised.
Its shortcomings are the mono in/out, some obvious missing intervals, the rigid interval pairing and lack of separate volume control in dual mode.
Once SA is putting out a pitch shifter, I'll sell that pitchfork and replace it with that new SA box :)
 
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#12,812
That Bigsby pedal by Gamechanger Audio looks interesting as a pitchshifter as well, in the short audio clips on guitar it sounds pretty good, but I really hate the large form factor and options --- it's more of a "whammy bar" pedal than a pitchshifter.
 
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#12,813
Adamixoye said:
That Bigsby pedal by Gamechanger Audio looks interesting as a pitchshifter as well, in the short audio clips on guitar it sounds pretty good, but I really hate the large form factor and options --- it's more of a "whammy bar" pedal than a pitchshifter.
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Cool pedal indeed. But you have to do a lot of knob fiddling. Not sure how practical that is on gig. It is a sort of new Whammy pedal.
 
#12,819
So let's speculate on the compressor. Lots of digital options like in the Multiwave or is it maybe analog like the Zio?
 

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