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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

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I'm not a big compressor-head, and I actually bought the Ultrawave with the intent of incorporating it into my setup as a "compressor-plus," though I haven't done that yet.

As always, hearing about the flexibility and options of the new pedal gives me pause.
 
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GMC said:
It's was more featured than the compressor found in the Ultrawave. The line that made me laugh in the Source Audio Youtube vids is the bit where Bob said "we were trying to put the Ultrawave compressor in a box, do it in Stereo...and then...yeah we just couldn't stop there...."
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That reminds me of when Source Audio tried making a digital OC-2 clone, and ended up with the C4.
 
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Les Fret said:
Ok I am really interested cause I am looking for a compressor for a long time now. I think it is very hard to judge from that video because it quite subtle. Especially with that vintage hollow body bass I don't hear much difference. I am listening on studio monitors.

I have a few questions though:
1) is it exactly the same compressor as in the Ultra Wave? Does the Ultra Wave have the same options?
2) Will it sound as good as the analog compressors like the Cali 76 for example?
3) can it do Dynacomp emulations for guitar? I also do a lot of guitar and I am looking for a compressor that can handle both bass and guitar equally well.
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1) We started with the Ultrawave compressor and then took it to amazing new places.
2) That is the intention for sure.
3) Out of the box it is set up for guitar. Very easy to switch to bass mode. This is covered in the video. Yes, this pedal should be really effective for both bass and guitar.
 
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Poobini said:
I'm not gonna lie, I was disappointed when I read that the Atlas was a compressor... but seeing the editing panel in Neuro? Good grief, this thing is gonna be insane!! A proper studio tool, almost certainly.
Does anyone have an idea of how the sidechain can trigger? I'm not in a place to watch any demos or videos at the moment.
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For the side chain the UI has a HPF and LPF, but the webpage also says you can run your own side chain signal, so you can split your signal earlier in your chain and run it through an EQ (the EQ2 should be great for both splitting and providing EQ) and get very fined tuned control of the side chain.
 
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GMC said:
That'll be essential when dialling in settings on the dual band. A different range on each band but operated from a single knob. Otherwise, one is just adjusting the same setting range on 2 identical compressors.

It's was more featured than the compressor found in the Ultrawave. The line that made me laugh in the Source Audio Youtube vids is the bit where Bob said "we were trying to put the Ultrawave compressor in a box, do it in Stereo...and then...yeah we just couldn't stop there...."

Having a list of accurate Compressor models to choose from really makes this an incredibly versatile compressor. One of the things I loved about the EBS MultiComp was the three way character switch. I could flick between a Multband, standards and tube compressor at a flick of a switch. It was only limited by it's models and the single compression knob. Where as the Atlas has lots of models, Stereo and multiband options...plus (effectively) 8 surface knobs. Plus the 8 band Graphic EQ and wide 3 band controls. This is a seriously versatile compressor. Plus all of the expression, mappable controls and Midi...it's making me very interested. I really think that Source Audio are going to sell a lot of these units. Another very strong product from Source Audio!
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Bob's comment in the video says it all about us. :)
 
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GMC said:
That'll be essential when dialling in settings on the dual band. A different range on each band but operated from a single knob. Otherwise, one is just adjusting the same setting range on 2 identical compressors.
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I'm happy with the compressors I have (Empress Bass Comp and Broughton Omnicomp), but if I were still looking I'd grab an Atlas.

One thing that's always vexed me about pedal compressors for live work is the way the lowest notes--especially on a five string--tended to cause too much gain reduction. Squash the signal, IOW. My understanding is that there's so much energy under the curve on those notes the compressor over-reacts. The deal maker for me on both the Empress and Broughton is their built in side chain with a high pass; those extreme low freqs don't get sent to the gain reduction circuit.

Couldn't tell from the vid or description if the Atlas had a similar high passed side chain, but if it didn't I'd just set the crossover point low (eh, 80 Hz or so?) and then run the low band compressor with a higher threshold and maybe a lower ratio. I figure that would accomplish the same thing.
 
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rsmith601 said:
1) We started with the Ultrawave compressor and then took it to amazing new places.
2) That is the intention for sure.
3) Out of the box it is set up for guitar. Very easy to switch to bass mode. This is covered in the video. Yes, this pedal should be really effective for both bass and guitar.
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Ok great! When will it be available in Europe? And what will be the euro price?
 
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Ewo said:
I'm happy with the compressors I have (Empress Bass Comp and Broughton Omnicomp), but if I were still looking I'd grab an Atlas.

One thing that's always vexed me about pedal compressors for live work is the way the lowest notes--especially on a five string--tended to cause too much gain reduction. Squash the signal, IOW. My understanding is that there's so much energy under the curve on those notes the compressor over-reacts. The deal maker for me on both the Empress and Broughton is their built in side chain with a high pass; those extreme low freqs don't get sent to the gain reduction circuit.

Couldn't tell from the vid or description if the Atlas had a similar high passed side chain, but if it didn't I'd just set the crossover point low (eh, 80 Hz or so?) and then run the low band compressor with a higher threshold and maybe a lower ratio. I figure that would accomplish the same thing.
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Poobini said:
I'm not gonna lie, I was disappointed when I read that the Atlas was a compressor... but seeing the editing panel in Neuro? Good grief, this thing is gonna be insane!! A proper studio tool, almost certainly.
Does anyone have an idea of how the sidechain can trigger? I'm not in a place to watch any demos or videos at the moment.
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side chain input is via the input 2 jack.
 
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Les Fret said:
Ok I am really interested cause I am looking for a compressor for a long time now. I think it is very hard to judge from that video because it quite subtle. Especially with that vintage hollow body bass I don't hear much difference. I am listening on studio monitors.

I have a few questions though:
1) is it exactly the same compressor as in the Ultra Wave? Does the Ultra Wave have the same options?
2) Will it sound as good as the analog compressors like the Cali 76 for example?
3) can it do Dynacomp emulations for guitar? I also do a lot of guitar and I am looking for a compressor that can handle both bass and guitar equally well.
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The basis is the Ultrawave compressor but Atlas goes way deeper.

I’ve never used the analogue pedals you mentioned so can’t comment on how close it’ll get.

There are Dynacomp patches available which Christopher Venter spent a good deal of time constructing, most likely with the originals on hand.

There’s a bass and a guitar mode, switchable in the global menu.
 
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sunbeast said:
Does the Atlas have any compression threshold/amount gauging via the light on the top? I wasn’t seeing any in the posted bass video, but maybe it’s an option that can be turned on?
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Yes, that was one of my suggestions that Jesse took on board*. It’s a global menu option.

*see clarification below
 
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