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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#121
rsmith601 said:
However, Jesse tells me that the next Orbital firmware update will provide that feature.
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OoOoooo... I have a question! *raises hand* :D

And maybe it's a dumb one, not sure... My Manta is my first SA pedal. :ninja:

How do we know what version firmware our pedals are on? For instance: for those that already have an Orbital, are they able to update their firmware or is it hard-baked into the pedal and the only way to get updated firmware is to buy a new pedal? I don't see a computer interface anywhere, unless it's through the multifunction jack?

I was thinking about an Orbital, but maybe I should wait?

EDIT: That leads to another question: If we're able to update the firmware on our end, how would that impact our settings/sounds?

5sg.
 
#122
fivestringgecko said:
OoOoooo... I have a question! *raises hand* :D

And maybe it's a dumb one, not sure... My Manta is my first SA pedal. :ninja:

How do we know what version firmware our pedals are on? For instance: for those that already have an Orbital, are they able to update their firmware or is it hard-baked into the pedal and the only way to get updated firmware is to buy a new pedal? I don't see a computer interface anywhere, unless it's through the multifunction jack?

I was thinking about an Orbital, but maybe I should wait?

EDIT: That leads to another question: If we're able to update the firmware on our end, how would that impact our settings/sounds?

5sg.
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Short answer: you need the Hub for firmware updates. Others can chime in on your other questions.
 
#125
rsmith601 said:
Ah, the old Hot Hand Wah and wired Hot Hand. Classic set up! One day those things are going to be highly collectable! Interestingly, the Hot Hand Phaser Flanger prices are on the rise since we discontinued it.

213 is it.
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I love the wired set up because I never recharge anything when I need to. Although I wish I would have known the HH3 was going to get bundled with the wah, that prices is ridiculously low for what you get.
 
#127
rsmith601 said:
This from Jon. If you need to dig in more, you can send him a note at [email protected]!
"A SB2 pedal responds to MIDI clock when its in Tap-Tempo mode. Tap-Tempo has to be saved as a preset in the pedal itself. But, you could use the Hub to call up a scene, where it simply selects the preset that has tap-tempo applied. However, you have to have a dedicated pedal preset with tap-tempo applied, to be able to use the Hub to recall a scene that syncs to a MIDI clock. If you are already sending MIDI clock, then when the preset is turned on, it will sync to that clock speed."
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Thanks, Roger. I'm still not sure I understand totally, but I appreciate the response. Before I take your advice and contact Jon directly, can anyone else on here explain to me this theory of operations in other words?
 
#128
Cloverfield said:
Thanks, Roger. I'm still not sure I understand totally, but I appreciate the response. Before I take your advice and contact Jon directly, can anyone else on here explain to me this theory of operations in other words?
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I THINK what he's saying that you should think of every preset (the two on the pedal or the ones saved on the Hub) as having an additional parameter of "Tap Tempo On/Off." If you save the preset with Tap Tempo mode selected to be on, then that preset can receive MIDI clock. If the Tap Tempo is off on the preset, then it can't. Some of the wording is a little weird, but that's still how I read it. (NOTE: I have some limited experience sending MIDI clock between non-SA pedals. I own a Manta but not the Hub, and I haven't really experimented with Tap Tempo mode on the Manta.)
 
#129
Cloverfield said:
Thanks, Roger. I'm still not sure I understand totally, but I appreciate the response. Before I take your advice and contact Jon directly, can anyone else on here explain to me this theory of operations in other words?
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Sorry I was not more clear. Hope this does it!

This applies to Manta.

You can have tap tempo as part of either pedal preset. It can be on preset ONE or preset TWO or both.

If you provide a MIDI clock to the Hub, then Manta will use that clock for tap tempo.

So far so good? Now, lets talk about scenes.

If I save a scene where preset ONE is on and that preset has tap tempo, then when I recall the scene I will get tap tempo.

However, if I go back and turn tap tempo off on preset ONE, then it will be off when I recall the preset I had set earlier.

The bottom line? Tap Tempo is associated with pedal presets, and not scene, unless the pedal preset is part of the scene AND you have not gone and turned Tap Tempo off on the preset.

All of this will apply to the Orbital soon too (2 weeks?). I suppose this is the one exception to the rule where firmware updates are more than just a Hub support addition.
 
#130
rsmith601 said:
Sorry I was not more clear. Hope this does it!

This applies to Manta.

You can have tap tempo as part of either pedal preset. It can be on preset ONE or preset TWO or both.

If you provide a MIDI clock to the Hub, then Manta will use that clock for tap tempo.

So far so good? Now, lets talk about scenes.

If I save a scene where preset ONE is on and that preset has tap tempo, then when I recall the scene I will get tap tempo.

However, if I go back and turn tap tempo off on preset ONE, then it will be off when I recall the preset I had set earlier.

The bottom line? Tap Tempo is associated with pedal presets, and not scene, unless the pedal preset is part of the scene AND you have not gone and turned Tap Tempo off on the preset.

All of this will apply to the Orbital soon too (2 weeks?). I suppose this is the one exception to the rule where firmware updates are more than just a Hub support addition.
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I think I understand now. Thanks! :)

So basically you can only sync tap-tempo via MIDI clock in conjunction with other MIDI-connected pedals with each of the SB2 pedal's two saved presets.

For example, any sound saved through the Manta on a scene that isn't one of the pedal's two always-available footswitch preset sounds cannot sync its tap-tempo automatically to MIDI clock. Is that right?
 
#131
Cloverfield said:
I think I understand now. Thanks! :)

So basically you can only sync tap-tempo via MIDI clock in conjunction with other MIDI-connected pedals with each of the SB2 pedal's two saved presets.

For example, any sound saved through the Manta on a scene that isn't one of the pedal's two always-available footswitch preset sounds cannot sync its tap-tempo automatically to MIDI clock. Is that right?
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You have stated it perfectly!
 
#132
I commited "Source-icide" with my primary bass pedalboard today! Out went a bunch of dirt options in favor of the OFD. That and the Dimension Reverb are playing the larger roles in my sound right now. The Programmable EQ is an important part of my arsenal as well....

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#133
I was playing around with compression tonight and chorus-like effects to get a fretless meets trembling sound type of thing and discovered some amazing SA settings.

So, I go Bass > Accountant (1:2) > Mix 50/50 of Clean and Orbital Default Quad Chorus with a bit of added depth > Dimension Reverb Room close to default with maybe a bit less reverb, medium room > Enabler mostly for a mid bump > Cali76 minor compression...

The sound was amazing especially on the higher notes. Now I need to play a bit more with the dual expression pedal.

Of course, I spaced out and forgot to save it to a scene :)
 
#137
mtb777 said:
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Ant Hill Music is very close by with a brick and mortar store and a huge online store. Really nice folks!

...and my new Orbital is hovering around my neighborhood on the mail truck.
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I also ordered my Manta from AntHill. They did not declare it under a category that saves me customs like Prymaxe always does, but their service was still top notch.
 
#139
Squawk said:
What's the main difference between the MWD and the OFD? One of them is going to get ordered along with a OM.

I have the DR and EQ. OM is definitely coming next along with EXP Pedal.
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The Multiwave is intended to provide a palette of new distortion tones. Some guitar players love it, and some do not. It is different than what people are used to hearing.

Bass players have been more consist fans. The tones tend to be more synthy and octave-up. There are lots of good videos on our site.

The OFD is designed to replace classic overdrive and fuzz pedals in one amazing little package.
 
#140
rsmith601 said:
The Multiwave is intended to provide a palette of new distortion tones. Some guitar players love it, and some do not. It is different than what people are used to hearing.



Bass players have been more consist fans. The tones tend to be more synthy and octave-up. There are lots of good videos on our site.



The OFD is designed to replace classic overdrive and fuzz pedals in one amazing little package.
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And it (the OFD) does it VERY well. I just played a couple more shows with it Thurs and fri and it screamed! I'm still adjusting my levels in a live setting, we unfortunately haven't had time to practice that much this past month because we've been playing a lot of shows, but I'm getting there. It def has a learning curve in a love setting more so than a regular dirt pedal, but it has a lot more perimeters than your normal dirt pedal. I love the fact that it has a three band EQ with boost but them on top of the it has the clean blend. Wowzaa.
 

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