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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3
- Thread starter gregmon79
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I'm just gonna leave this here as well because I'm so excited:
I finally got to spend some more time with the Ultrawave last night and tried out the presets for it from the SA homepage ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed])
WOW - these are all such great starting points for all kinds of sounds. Leave them as is and they'll easily replace 6 pedals, covering tremolo, slow-gear, OD, distortion, fuzz, compression. But obviously you can use a bunch of these algorithms in tandem, or change things up to your liking. I just shook my head in disbelief on how great these presets are and how I almost missed that link in my quick read through the pedal description. Highly recommended!! I have 40ish presets saved on my unit now.
Now I just have to spend many more hours/weeks/months or more tweaking the UW before I can say I am getting close the limits of this pedal.
And then... I still need to get to know my Collider better!
But for now, again the link for said presets:
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I finally got to spend some more time with the Ultrawave last night and tried out the presets for it from the SA homepage ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed])
WOW - these are all such great starting points for all kinds of sounds. Leave them as is and they'll easily replace 6 pedals, covering tremolo, slow-gear, OD, distortion, fuzz, compression. But obviously you can use a bunch of these algorithms in tandem, or change things up to your liking. I just shook my head in disbelief on how great these presets are and how I almost missed that link in my quick read through the pedal description. Highly recommended!! I have 40ish presets saved on my unit now.
Now I just have to spend many more hours/weeks/months or more tweaking the UW before I can say I am getting close the limits of this pedal.
And then... I still need to get to know my Collider better!
But for now, again the link for said presets:
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Had a good play with my Kingmaker / Aftershock now.
Soundwise it seems really good with a lot of potential, not had a chance to crank the volume yet but seems more natural than distortions on my Zoom MS-60B.
However I feel a little disappointed with some of the dual channel options. It can do the split channel "royal blood" thing nicely with octave up into the 2nd input. But it seems very hard to control the 2 channels independently or set the left / right mix level without having to use the neuro app to set the channel 1 & 2 values individually. But then touching the physical drive & output knobs overrides the asymmetric levels set in app.
I think all it really needs is a few new Knob Assign options:
Having the 2 channels included in the pedal is a really powerful cool feature just a shame the physical controls are currently so restricted. Not sure if midi controllers get round these restrictions?
Soundwise it seems really good with a lot of potential, not had a chance to crank the volume yet but seems more natural than distortions on my Zoom MS-60B.
However I feel a little disappointed with some of the dual channel options. It can do the split channel "royal blood" thing nicely with octave up into the 2nd input. But it seems very hard to control the 2 channels independently or set the left / right mix level without having to use the neuro app to set the channel 1 & 2 values individually. But then touching the physical drive & output knobs overrides the asymmetric levels set in app.
I think all it really needs is a few new Knob Assign options:
- Channel 1, 2, or Both option when assigning knob functions. Seems to always do both currently.
- Make Drive and Output knobs assignable as well (1, 2, or Both, other functions).
- Channel 1 / 2 Blend / Output balance (when in stereo to mono routing).
Having the 2 channels included in the pedal is a really powerful cool feature just a shame the physical controls are currently so restricted. Not sure if midi controllers get round these restrictions?
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You are correct but that setting is not global so you will want to remember to make those selections with saving each of your sounds.
rsmith601
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After creating software for pedals for over a decade, I can say with confidence that nothing is minor. Any changes ripple across 4 software platforms (windows, Mac, iOS, Android) and then across 3 separate firmware programs in the pedals. This all needs to be tested extensively to ensure nothing was broken in the process. We try our best to incorporate lots of requests,. but we need to be very careful!!
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Sure as a developer myself I appreciate even seemingly small changes can be time consuming to implement.
In this case it seems like it’s just a few extra options needed in the knob assign drop downs. Assuming the individual channel controls can already be referenced in the code.
Assigning the top 2 knobs and a stereo to mono mix option would also be great but expect these would require more work.
Really appreciate that you are active on the forum. Would love to see some improvements on the dual channel controls as it’s one of the stand out features on the pedals.
Finished my diy Nano Tap switch:
May attempt a V2 with extra expression X Y controls when/if I get a C4.
May attempt a V2 with extra expression X Y controls when/if I get a C4.
After getting an Atlas last week and falling head over heels in love with it, I immediately pulled the trigger on an Aftershock.
The downside is that it gave kind of a bummer of a first impression. The tube setting was pretty crunchy but it's about where I'd expect the middle setting to be, not the warm tube sound I expected. I frankly really disliked the other two presets.
Hooked it up to the computer and was similarly disappointed that unlike the Atlas, it didn't come loaded with a number of presets. I didn't mind signing up to the site and downloading stuff from the cloud but Nate Navarro's patches are incredible and they were in the official demo video. I feel like that's a real missed opportunity there.
But gripes aside, once I was in the cloud I fell in love. Took me zero effort to find a clean warm tube sound, a clanky mid gain sound, and someone made a surprisingly passable b:assmaster patch in there that I'm in love with. This thing is pretty much the endgame of bass dirt for the forseeable future in my opinion.
The downside is that it gave kind of a bummer of a first impression. The tube setting was pretty crunchy but it's about where I'd expect the middle setting to be, not the warm tube sound I expected. I frankly really disliked the other two presets.
Hooked it up to the computer and was similarly disappointed that unlike the Atlas, it didn't come loaded with a number of presets. I didn't mind signing up to the site and downloading stuff from the cloud but Nate Navarro's patches are incredible and they were in the official demo video. I feel like that's a real missed opportunity there.
But gripes aside, once I was in the cloud I fell in love. Took me zero effort to find a clean warm tube sound, a clanky mid gain sound, and someone made a surprisingly passable b:assmaster patch in there that I'm in love with. This thing is pretty much the endgame of bass dirt for the forseeable future in my opinion.
Gemini chorus came in yesterday. Definitely a ton of good bass sounds in there, so it'll be a challenge to find ONE that I'll want to keep. There's lots to learn about this pedal, this is quite a complex piece of gear...
I have a Neuro Hub, Soleman, C4, Aftershock and Mercury that I would like to connect to a (Windows 11) PC? Do I need to connect only to the Soleman and the Neuro Hub, or do I need a USB Hub with individual connections to each pedal as well as the Hub and Soleman to get the most out of this gear?
If a USB hub is beneficial, could anyone suggest one that works well for them?
Thanks!
If a USB hub is beneficial, could anyone suggest one that works well for them?
Thanks!
I use a generic USB hub under my board, two actually, to connect directly as well as the SA link to my Neuro Hub. This gives me direct access to all 4 of my SA pedals plus the Neuro Hub. I also run a Zoom MS60B via USB/MIDI.
I use one of these: https://amzn.eu/d/95YncQw
I get 10 plugs (I use them all, 6 SA pedals, Neuro Hub, 2 midi hubs, and Quad Cortex), no noise, and 12V power so it can be powered by my Cioks DC7.
I had to get adapters. I couldn’t find the “perfect” cable with all the proper right angles, but you can find short extensions with right angles. I’ll see if I can find the ones I used (I am not using them right now, got everything going straight in)
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Soleman isn’t saving any data other than preset names, all the saving is done on the pedal(s) you’re controlling, the soleman just send midi messages to the controlled devices. So you’d need to reorder your presets on the target device, or just use the set list mode on soleman if you want to use a different order.
I understand that, and the scenes are saved in the hub. My question was that if I wanted to save my current scene to a different one without overwriting the current scene or erasing the scene I'm on because I'm moving through other scenes. How do you do this. I know I'm not the only one that's thought of this
Ok, sorcerers, I need your help.
I play in an original rock trio. Link in my signature. My dirt pedal of choice has been an old Multiwave Bass Distortion. I usually split my time between settings 3 and 15. 3 works really well as an octave fuzz and 15 is yer basic distortion. They do the job better than anything else I've played.
We have a new song and I've been trying to get the right sound out of an EHX SuperEgo+. This has not worked. So I started turning knobs and came up to a wonderful sound with added compression, setting 4 on the Bass Multiwave, and a doubling delay. This completely screws up my board for any other song I'm going to play.
An Ultra Wave would allow me to save presets on the toggle. It's programming the thing I'm worried about. I tend to keep things simple and I'm likely to get flustered with all of the programming, especially when going from home to rehearsal to live. I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on those transitions and your struggles with the different EQ sections potentially working against each other.
Thanks.
I play in an original rock trio. Link in my signature. My dirt pedal of choice has been an old Multiwave Bass Distortion. I usually split my time between settings 3 and 15. 3 works really well as an octave fuzz and 15 is yer basic distortion. They do the job better than anything else I've played.
We have a new song and I've been trying to get the right sound out of an EHX SuperEgo+. This has not worked. So I started turning knobs and came up to a wonderful sound with added compression, setting 4 on the Bass Multiwave, and a doubling delay. This completely screws up my board for any other song I'm going to play.
An Ultra Wave would allow me to save presets on the toggle. It's programming the thing I'm worried about. I tend to keep things simple and I'm likely to get flustered with all of the programming, especially when going from home to rehearsal to live. I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on those transitions and your struggles with the different EQ sections potentially working against each other.
Thanks.
