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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#15,504
Les Fret said:
Is there anything new in the C4/Spectrum/ UltraWave/Atlas style pedals range on the horizon?
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One was (perhaps accidentally) teased a while ago in a photo for one of the C4 giveaways, which a few people spotted.

(I know what it is but am not permitted to disclose anything.)

Rest assured, the people at SA aren’t resting on their laurels; they are always hard at work on the next thing. These things take years from start to finish.
 
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#15,507
rsmith601 said:
Just so I can be sure nothing slips through the cracks, is there something that needs updating in the user guides?
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There are some general things to check.

1. Make sure terminology is consistent between the Neuro editors and the documentation. Whether it is Engine A, Channel 1, L Channel, Upper path, etc.

2. Some controls in the Neuro app have little or no explanation (or the explanation assumes the reader already knows). For example, "Attack Shaping" or "Post-Compressor-Dynamic". Pictures are helpful. And some things just need a more complete explanation, like what happens when switching the Atlas to bass mode, etc.

3. Many ambiguities would be cleared up by adding a complete signal path diagram to some of the manuals. And if there are multiple paths (due to the different routing options) the simplified routings can be shown, and more detailed routings can be broken out as needed.

4. The Dirty Trinity has two different manuals, one dedicated to navigating Neuro. I think those should be consolidated into one manual.

I don't have time right now to go through manuals and Neuro for the five SA pedals I own. But if I think of anything else, I'll post here.

Thx for listening and good luck with V3!!!!
 
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#15,508
stubbsonic said:
There are some general things to check.

1. Make sure terminology is consistent between the Neuro editors and the documentation. Whether it is Engine A, Channel 1, L Channel, Upper path, etc.

2. Some controls in the Neuro app have little or no explanation (or the explanation assumes the reader already knows). For example, "Attack Shaping" or "Post-Compressor-Dynamic". Pictures are helpful. And some things just need a more complete explanation, like what happens when switching the Atlas to bass mode, etc.

3. Many ambiguities would be cleared up by adding a complete signal path diagram to some of the manuals. And if there are multiple paths (due to the different routing options) the simplified routings can be shown, and more detailed routings can be broken out as needed.

4. The Dirty Trinity has two different manuals, one dedicated to navigating Neuro. I think those should be consolidated into one manual.

I don't have time right now to go through manuals and Neuro for the five SA pedals I own. But if I think of anything else, I'll post here.

Thx for listening and good luck with V3!!!!
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Your list has been shared with the guys who create and update the user guides.
 
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rsmith601 said:
Just so I can be sure nothing slips through the cracks, is there something that needs updating in the user guides?
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when Warwick updated their website last they stuck the staging site (? Might have been live) on their forum and lots of Warwick fans (Ie invested enough to not a have a problem with bad translations) helped them with their proofing.
I think that helped them do a load of stuff and have a structure and set deadlines to do the stuff. (I’m a designer by trade and ad hoc amends can kill productivity, version 2 in two weeks (or other set timeframe) and all amends via one channel (proofing tool etc) breaks it down.

I then must have been helpful enough a Warwick t shirt turned up unexpectedly in the post.
A very long way of saying people invested in your products would probably help and pick up things you wouldn’t for very very low cost
 
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#15,510
sunbeast said:
Ghost adaptor is a USB solution that DMC makes for use with other controllers (it turns a standard Midi controller output into a "USB Host" like a computer, which is what the C4 needs to see for USB control), so it is just a USB Mini solution that serves no use with a DMC controller that already has USB Host built-in. You can get a DMC controller (like the DMC-3XL) that has multiple 1/4" jacks so you can have both MIDI expression and control of the C4 without USB, and the bonus is that you also get a 3rd footswitch. Then again plenty of people use USB for controlling the C4 without issue- I was just stating my experience/preference (I find even angled Mini USB connections to not be sufficiently robust for a pedal that I am often swapping between boards- might be different if I was leaving the pedal and cable stationary on a fixed board though). If you do choose to use USB to control your C4, I highly recommend a USB A to Mini adaptor on either one or both ends so that you can unplug from the controller without removing the jack from the pedal when you need to attach the C4 or DMC USB to your computer for editing purposes. I have personally broken a few USB Mini cables AND a few circuit-board connections on different devices from plugging/unplugging or from other impact (I actually broke a Mini USB cable end from my C4 while it was traveling in my pedalboard case from some sort of impact, granted I had the cable routed fairly tightly on the board- just glad it broke the cable rather than the USB jack of the pedal).

The new SA adaptor avoids USB connection by taking MIDI on one end and 1/8" on the C4 end and can be hidden nicely under a pedalboard. I currently control my C4 using a Morningstar MC6 paired with the new SA adaptor. The newer MC6 Pro has USB Host control, but because of my preference to avoid USB I'll probably stick with the adaptor even if I do upgrade controllers from the MC6 to MC6 Pro.
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Can you please share your midi settings on the DMC and hardware settings on the C4?
 
#15,514
So is this the pedal that was almost leaked earlier? Or another?

Besides the analog dry signal path, and new presets, are their things this pedal can do that the old nemesis can’t?
 
#15,516
LowWay said:
So is this the pedal that was almost leaked earlier? Or another?

Besides the analog dry signal path, and new presets, are their things this pedal can do that the old nemesis can’t?
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Nope, that’s a different pedal entirely.

The ADT has relegated the Sweeper, Rhythmic and Degrade engines to the back page and promoted the Resonant Analog, Oil Can and Binson multihead engines to the top panel.

The only bit of clarification I’ve asked for is whether the Analog engine has the option to digitally process the dry signal. The Analog engine on the original pedal applied filtering to the dry signal by default, but this could be disabled in a preset. Just wondering if older presets that use the Analog engine can be made to sound exactly the same or not.
 

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