Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[Luke the Fluke]

I thought that the 7 engines limited what the pedal could do in each position. And then I got confused looking in the manual as the factory presets didn't have an engine associated with them. Then I looked at the Neuro editor, and realised that there are a lot more combinations of effects than what the 7 engines give.

This is a complete platform to create all kinds of lo-fi effects.

I think it’s best to be thought of as a really complex multifx system - with a front end of presets to make it simple to dive into some basic (guitar based) sounds


But looking at neuro3.0 it’s so so complex

 

[Quatschmacher]

I think it’s best to be thought of as a really complex multifx system - with a front end of presets to make it simple to dive into some basic (guitar based) sounds


But looking at neuro3.0 it’s so so complex

Again, plenty for bass players too.

Is it live in the desktop version? I haven’t looked today.

 

[WhoopingHonky]

For a small series dual foot switch pedal, I would argue side jacks are the way to go. True you can't cram as much on a pedalboard, but you can actually use the switches easier or stage with more space between the pedals.

 

[Quatschmacher]

For a small series dual foot switch pedal, I would argue side jacks are the way to go. True you can't cram as much on a pedalboard, but you can actually use the switches easier or stage with more space between the pedals.

There are some very low profile patch cables out there which keep space between pedals quite low, granted not as low as physically touching each other but still decent.

 

[coyoteboy]

Do the engines operate in series or parallel w each other?

 

[Quatschmacher]

Do the engines operate in series or parallel w each other?

Some bits are series, some parallel. The four effects in the destruction mixer (Ring Mod, Distortion, Bit Error and Sample Rate Reduction) can be run in series or parallel. The vinyl signal is mixed in parallel near the end.

 

[gregmon79]

There are some very low profile patch cables out there which keep space between pedals quite low, granted not as low as physically touching each other but still decent.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[fleafly32]

@rsmith601 the demos sound great, but when is @nnavarro doing a bass demo?

 

[rsmith601]

I just hunted around for this post as I had to bite my tongue hard when I read it the other day. Not only does it do US 60 cycle hum but also UK 50 cycle hum!

Despite being tongue-in-cheek, how right you actually were!

We had a good laugh in the meeting when I suggested we add 50hz

 

[rsmith601]

@rsmith601 the demos sound great, but when is @nnavarro doing a bass demo?

Doing a bass video is on our list of priorities. We have been crazy busy.

 

[fleafly32]

Doing a bass video is on our list of priorities. We have been crazy busy.

Of course! It looks amazing, I'm just greedy!

 

[Gibs210]

Well, finished up on the gear page, and now to come over here and check on things

The Artifakt looks like a lot of fun!!! I may get one eventually. So many possibilities within that thing. My eyes are more centered on the EQ2 atm though. But the new one looks really cool and I may end up with one soon than later. I'd like to see more demos of what others are doing/going to do with it. I had a Red Panda Tensor a while back that I wanted since it's release. Finally got one and realized it wasn't what I thought it would be/I couldn't do what I wanted to get out of it.

Hey @Quatschmacher can the artifakt do any runaway delay type things where you can control/sweep the runaway? Like does it do delay at all?

It’s a very capable delay with ping-pong and dual options. And yes, delay time can be assigned to an envelope, knob, footswitch or pedal.

don’t forget, there is an oscillation assignment for the option switch, instant runaway feedback.

In the editor, is it possible to mix and match different effects? Like can I get the uVerb with a delay? And can that delay have different subdivisions, 1/4 dot, 1/8, 1/8 dot, triple, etc?

Only one time-based effect at a time, I’m afraid. Usual MIDI sync and division capabilities.

thats actually for the LFO, the delay time at max is under 300ms, so subdivisions and tap tempo are not assignable for delay, but subdivisions and tap tempo are assignable for the 2 LFOs in the artifakt (one for the main lfo and one for the time based LFO (for things like chorus, flanger, vibrato etc).

Embarrassingly, I’m actually not really into lo-fi glitchy stuff but I LOVE this pedal. It does plenty of the more “conventional” stuff well.

same, but from a guitarist point of view.

I thought that the 7 engines limited what the pedal could do in each position. And then I got confused looking in the manual as the factory presets didn't have an engine associated with them. Then I looked at the Neuro editor, and realised that there are a lot more combinations of effects than what the 7 engines give.

This is a complete platform to create all kinds of lo-fi effects.

pretty much, it’s kind like a C4, but not a synth in terms of being a sound toolbox.

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I said this on artifakt on the gear page but I’ll share it here:

Artifakt works well as a bread and butter tremolo (I have a preset that is pretty much the harmonic tremolo from our vertigo), chorus, flanger, vibrato, distortion/fuzz/overdrive, basic compressor, ehx style freeze, count to 5 style glitch effects, a basic short time delay (I think it tops out at 288ms, so useable time beyond slapback, but can’t do long delay times, can also manipulate controls to get it into tape and analog delay territory) retro reverb, slapback delay, univibe-esque sounds (via the ladder filter) auto wah, modulated wah, or hook up an expression for actual wah. All in addition to the other sounds that make it a “Lo Fi” pedal.

I’ve fielded many an email asking for a nemesis style multi mod, and while this thing wasn’t set out to be that, it does this very well, exception being phaser (which is why I need to figure out how to fit both artifakt and the Gemini on my board).

With the exception of the alt function for output, the bypass switch, and the 7 position encoder (you can re write what is saved to those 7 slots), everything can be user defined, the bandwidth switch, destruct, filter, mix, vary, rate, depth, and shape knobs, and the option switch can all be remapped, there are 2 soft control sections, which can be mapped, these are user customized controls letting you set the min and max value of up to 3 controls, plus a threshold setting for where some start to work in the knob’s travel. Soft control can be mapped to the option switch as well using switch assignment, so beyond freezing, tap tempo, oscillation, tape stop, vinyl skip, you can control specific effects or controls to come on with the option switch. Plus the typical external expression of up to 3 controls, similarly mapped out like the soft controls.

This pedal was the most fun I had since first getting acquainted with source audio gear. And probably the most excited I’ve gotten about an SA product that was secret, since the collider.

I’ve been holding this in for a long while now if you couldn’t tell.

 

[shon]

@rsmith601

Doing a bass video is on our list of priorities. We have been crazy busy.

Jesse Williams did a good job with the Zio. He's my homey and a fellow Boston bassist.

 

[rsmith601]

@rsmith601



Jesse Williams did a good job with the Zio. He's my homey and a fellow Boston bassist.

We love Jesse. That's a great idea.

 

[IronSpatula]

I just hunted around for this post as I had to bite my tongue hard when I read it the other day. Not only does it do US 60 cycle hum but also UK 50 cycle hum!

Despite being tongue-in-cheek, how right you actually were!

Now I need to get this pedal, just so I can mess with my sound guy...

 

[SamuelG]

Hmm, I’m quite new to bass & pedalboards and already my EQ2 is indispensable! I’m enjoying my LALady but it’s not very useful in my context of playing at church. (I don’t use fuzz or distortion for church.)
I haven’t spent anything on chorus/reverb/delay type pedals which I’m lead to believe are very useful in my context.
The cost of a C4 or an Artifakt is easily comparable if I don’t purchase two or more other pedals.
What do you think? Go with a C4 or an Artifakt for my situation?

 

[LSMFT6]

Hmm, I’m quite new to bass & pedalboards and already my EQ2 is indispensable! I’m enjoying my LALady but it’s not very useful in my context of playing at church. (I don’t use fuzz or distortion for church.)
I haven’t spent anything on chorus/reverb/delay type pedals which I’m lead to believe are very useful in my context.
The cost of a C4 or an Artifakt is easily comparable if I don’t purchase two or more other pedals.
What do you think? Go with a C4 or an Artifakt for my situation?

If you don’t use distortion in church, you likely won’t be using synth sounds either, while the Artifact does several more subtle and pleasant things.

 

[Quatschmacher]

If you don’t use distortion in church, you likely won’t be using synth sounds either, while the Artifact does several more subtle and pleasant things.

On balance though, octave, phaser and a plethora of filter options are part of C4’s bag. I do wonder if the OP should take a look at Collider and Lunar/Gemini/Mercury.

 

[LSMFT6]

Nope, plenty for us bass players here. The filter alone is worth the admission price. As I have probably said elsewhere, this pedal has replaced my Mutron Microtron IV (I sold it a couple of months ago). Embarrassingly, I’m actually not really into lo-fi glitchy stuff but I LOVE this pedal. It does plenty of the more “conventional” stuff well.

Here’s a recording I made of Artifakt and my MuTron side by side. I challenge anyone to be able to guess which is which (and this clip was made before I revised the preset to more closely match the EQ (as that wasn’t working properly when I first made the patch)).

(Sorry for repeat post - the file upload playback failed.)

Aside from nailing your Mutron sound, can it cover most bass envelope filter territory? I’m currently using an old Bass Envelope Filter Pro (nothing against the Spectrum or Manta but I need at least 3 presents with dedicated footswitches) and the fat 2-pole resonant low pass filter presets are staples for me. The BEF-Pro manual describes them as being similar to the 3leaf Groove Regulator.
I really like the new format, especially the presets, and the chorus/vibrato/flanger capabilities will just be icing on the cake if the Artifakt can do those filter sounds.

 

[Quatschmacher]

Aside from nailing your Mutron sound, can it cover most bass envelope filter territory? I’m currently using an old Bass Envelope Filter Pro (nothing against the Spectrum or Manta but I need at least 3 presents with dedicated footswitches) and the fat 2-pole resonant low pass filter presets are staples for me. The BEF-Pro manual describes them as being similar to the 3leaf Groove Regulator.
I really like the new format, especially the presets, and the chorus/vibrato/flanger capabilities will just be icing on the cake if the Artifakt can do those filter sounds.

I’m presuming it’s a 4-pole ladder filter (@rsmith601 can confirm). Most pedal envelope filters are 2-pole I think. (There are few that do both.) Aside from that and bandpass, I think it’ll cover most envelope filter duties as it has up/down sweep, full control over cutoff, resonance, envelope depth, envelope speed, envelope sensitivity, 3 different envelope responses (compressed, linear, expanded). Then there’s all the LFO options and the filter self-modulation. I wrote this elsewhere - for me it captures the hands-on immediacy of my old Manta from the SB2 series.