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SpaceX and other space stuff
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I am a fan, and know the history, and I, too, think it is not going particularly well.
We will see what news they share, but, sure looks like there were multiple significant failures here. Whether they like it or not, public opinion, and NASA affection, will wane quickly if we don't start seeing something besides a shiny big rocket and boom.
Right now, timelines for actual crewed use of this seem - ridiculous.
Ok, I will admit it. I am not a fan of this design. I am a big fan of SpaceX, Falcon and Dragon. I am not a fan of this. To me it, it reeks of more gee-whiz-wouldn't-that-be-cool than proper design decisions for the time. Someday, maybe, but for me, this was not the design for this time.
I'm not an SLS fan either, but when I see this, I am glad, again, for SLS and Orion.
For the first time, I am giving a SpaceX attempt a - big thumbs down today.
We will see what news they share, but, sure looks like there were multiple significant failures here. Whether they like it or not, public opinion, and NASA affection, will wane quickly if we don't start seeing something besides a shiny big rocket and boom.
Right now, timelines for actual crewed use of this seem - ridiculous.
Ok, I will admit it. I am not a fan of this design. I am a big fan of SpaceX, Falcon and Dragon. I am not a fan of this. To me it, it reeks of more gee-whiz-wouldn't-that-be-cool than proper design decisions for the time. Someday, maybe, but for me, this was not the design for this time.
I'm not an SLS fan either, but when I see this, I am glad, again, for SLS and Orion.
For the first time, I am giving a SpaceX attempt a - big thumbs down today.
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. But he really doesn’t have to please anyone other than investors. Investors choose to invest in this. It’s basically his money.
I'm vague on (and not bothering to research) the precise point of the flop and stand up to land on rockets business, but my gut reaction is that it fails the KISS principle.
I'm quite clear on "let's show we can launch in the fog" being a numb stunt for a test flight where it limits the ability to gather data about what went wrong, because it was invisible. 10 or 20 successful tests in clear weather in, perhaps. When they blow up more often than not, seeing what goes wrong is important to not having it go wrong via learning about it and fixing it.
Of course, stunt may well have been most of the point.
I'm quite clear on "let's show we can launch in the fog" being a numb stunt for a test flight where it limits the ability to gather data about what went wrong, because it was invisible. 10 or 20 successful tests in clear weather in, perhaps. When they blow up more often than not, seeing what goes wrong is important to not having it go wrong via learning about it and fixing it.
Of course, stunt may well have been most of the point.
I agree that the fog was not good for viewers. But they must launch and take of from places they can’t see. As far as the flip, they are making a fully reusable starship(rocket).
The F9 failed many times and now it a fully workable system.
Rockets can fly by computers alone. And land. The is a test vehicle, it takes time.
Huh... Well there you go. Turns out most of them did survive - man I'm cynical these days.
Hopefully, when NASA do get back to the moon, we will finally discover if the USSR did actually crash a manned craft on the surface, at the same time Armstrong & Aldrin were taking man's first steps.
There was genuine concern that the craft might collide with Collins, in the command module.
It was probably unmanned, and just intended to put added pressure on the Apollo 11 mission, right at the critical last minute - but there is a distinct possibility that there is a Soviet corpse on the moon.
I'm not luck enough to have a puppy descendant of one of the Soviet Space Dogs, but I did steal a Sycamore seed from one of the "Moon Trees".
A cool satellite view I found somewhere...
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And this is nice to visualize the layout of everything.
I apologize, I’m having problems with some pics from the net...copyrights?
I dunno.
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And this is nice to visualize the layout of everything.
I apologize, I’m having problems with some pics from the net...copyrights?
I dunno.
If I had to guess, it might be a file format vs. board software display thing, since that seems to be a *.webp."
ETA: As for the vid, did anyone else see the freaked-out frog at ~20 sec?
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a couple of decades ago, my aunt used to go and hunt for sand dollars on boca chica beach. nowadays, mr. spacex has turned it into his own bikini island.
I don’t know, doing it from my iPad. They change the operating system of it all the time with updates...
