Pre-Owned Vintage 1980s Spector Legend 4 String Bass Guitar Blue Stain Hard Case | eBay
nope.
looks like a nice ns2b.
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Pre-Owned Vintage 1980s Spector Legend 4 String Bass Guitar Blue Stain Hard Case | eBay
nope.
looks like a nice ns2b.
worshiprocker
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iceboxbass said:
The older performers were the ns2 shape not the ns2000 shape.....
They also had a very different look.. (I had one)
New club member
I'm a newb, but picked this up at my local GC for 200. Love the way it plays and sounds
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Sure looks like a Q4 to me
Performers were made in China.
Its a Q4, they have a Flat body.
Congrats and welcome
Great price by the way
Just curious are you in MD?
I think this may be the one they had mis-labeled a few days ago.
Man that pawn shop just cant get it right
Its a NS-2B
Donny, take a ride over there and let them know what it is.
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I just sent the seller a note letting him know. I am partially at fault. I had sent him an email telling him that it was not a EuroLX, which was what he had it listed as originally. He asked me if I knew what it was. I told him i was not 100% sure but though it was a Legend. my bad. Gotta study my Spector history
my bad. Gotta study my Spector history
worshiprocker
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Man that pawn shop just cant get it right
Its a NS-2B
Donny, take a ride over there and let them know what it is.
I kinda wanna go check it out, just to say I've played one
I just sent the seller a note letting him know. I am partially at fault. I had sent him an email telling him that it was not a EuroLX, which was what he had it listed as originally. He asked me if I knew what it was. I told him i was not 100% sure but though it was a Legend.
at least they listened...
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So, I have a Euro 4LX. Many of you might remember it because of the sunburst refinish. I also switched it to black hardware and an EMG BTS preamp. I must admit that I find myself unhappy with the tone in comparison to my US NS4. Now for starters, I realize that comparing the basses is not apples to apples. The NS4 has the humbuckers, 18 volt preamp and is a walnut back/buckeye top. Just the wood alone is a big difference of course. However, I can't help but wonder if a switch to one of the US preamps that Spector sells wouldn't get it closer.
My question is that I love the sound of my NS4. More growl, more low end, more punch, etc. Anyway, I see the 9 volt preamp comes with the PJ models (not to mention is pricier). If i love the NS4, is the 18 volt a better option, or is their something about the pairing of the 18 volt with the humbuckers vs the 9 volt with the PJ? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Euro 4LX and NS4 in foreground (the 83 NS2 and Euro 4LX Bubinga were sold):
My question is that I love the sound of my NS4. More growl, more low end, more punch, etc. Anyway, I see the 9 volt preamp comes with the PJ models (not to mention is pricier). If i love the NS4, is the 18 volt a better option, or is their something about the pairing of the 18 volt with the humbuckers vs the 9 volt with the PJ? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Euro 4LX and NS4 in foreground (the 83 NS2 and Euro 4LX Bubinga were sold):
I just sent the seller a note letting him know. I am partially at fault. I had sent him an email telling him that it was not a EuroLX, which was what he had it listed as originally. He asked me if I knew what it was. I told him i was not 100% sure but though it was a Legend.
JPS,
After NAMM, any plans for a interactive "Spector Model History" section on the new Spectorcentral.com ?
Something that goes into detail about each model
Example; like the whole NS-4CR to Euro to Euro LX transition.
I still refer to a post that Phat made a while back with info on when they swiched from the BT to the OBP1 to the Tonepump to the New Tonepump.
In the meantime, everyone can check these links on the Spector website for info on older models.
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Performers were made in China.
Its a Q4, they have a Flat body.
Congrats and welcome
Great price by the way
Just curious are you in MD?
I think this may be the one they had mis-labeled a few days ago.
Yup bought it from the good ole Glim Burnie GC
EDIT:
NOLA, Read the response from JPSBassist first (4 posts down) before you read this. I think the bottom line is, it wil be very difficult to match the tone from a work of art like a NS-4 with Buckeye top Walnut back.
Imagine both basses even with no preamp in them. Im sure the tone of the NS-4 will always sound better then the Euro 4LX. This is why I am thinking it may be best to go with a 3 band EQ like a OBP3 on the Euro 4LX. Just curious which pre did you like better in the Euro 4LX? The BTS or the Tonepump?
I don't have any experience with the 18v USA and just played a older USA 9V Haz once.
I did have 2 NS-2As with a BTS Pre and I loved the tone. Now I have Forte with a Aguilar OBP2 and 2 Euro LX's with a Trim Tonepump. There is a difference in tone for sure.
I did also recently try a Euro LX and a NS-4H2 with a Aguilar OBP3 and I was really impressed with tone change from the Mid pot.
It has a Mid control: plus/minus 16 dB @ 400Hz or 800 Hz.
They usually run about 150ish
You would need a OBP-3SK/PP:
stacked Treble/Bass pot
separate Mid pot. Mid pot is push/pull for Midrange frequency selection.
That would work with either Vol Vol or Vol Blend
P.S. Sorry my response is kinda off topic from your original question but I hope it was some good insight so you dont have to lay out $350 on a USA 9V circuit and dont end up matching the NS-4 tone.
Wow, those are some beautiful basses. I asked this question in a previous thread and JPS responded with the reason why they do this. Let me see if I can find that post.
Ok, I found the response but unfortunately, it doesn't really say the exact reason why the different circuits are used:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/spector-club-part-16-a-816107/index11.html#post11628113
If you also scroll down a few posts, Rockstarbassist gives his experience on the 2 circuits also since he has played both. I hope this helps but I know it doesn't give the exact explanation you are looking for.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/spector-club-part-16-a-816107/index11.html#post11628113
If you also scroll down a few posts, Rockstarbassist gives his experience on the 2 circuits also since he has played both. I hope this helps but I know it doesn't give the exact explanation you are looking for.
So, I have a Euro 4LX. Many of you might remember it because of the sunburst refinish. I also switched it to black hardware and an EMG BTS preamp. I must admit that I find myself unhappy with the tone in comparison to my US NS4. Now for starters, I realize that comparing the basses is not apples to apples. The NS4 has the humbuckers, 18 volt preamp and is a walnut back/buckeye top. Just the wood alone is a big difference of course. However, I can't help but wonder if a switch to one of the US preamps that Spector sells wouldn't get it closer.
My question is that I love the sound of my NS4. More growl, more low end, more punch, etc. Anyway, I see the 9 volt preamp comes with the PJ models (not to mention is pricier). If i love the NS4, is the 18 volt a better option, or is their something about the pairing of the 18 volt with the humbuckers vs the 9 volt with the PJ? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Euro 4LX and NS4 in foreground (the 83 NS2 and Euro 4LX Bubinga were sold):
I played both today.
My NS-2 (The Black Pearl) has the USA 9v Haz circuit and active P/J pups. It has solid quilt maple wings. Birdseye Maple Fingerboard.
My NS-4 is a water cured redwood model, like your buckeye burl has the black walnut back 50/50 with the redwood. 2 EMG DC pups and the 18v USA circuit (also made by Haz). Pau Ferro Fingerboard.
OK. Here's my assessment of these two circuits.
NS-2 - Love it. The circuit working with the P/J setup provides a rich, growly tone. There's dimension and range... It's not unlike your NS-4 - the basic color of the tone, the growl, the grit... it's there and actually stronger with the NS-2.
NS-4 - Also Love it. But it's bigger, deeper, somewhat richer, not as punchy and not as growly at certain EQ settings as the NS-2. You've probably noticed that you can almost clean the growl up with certain settings with the NS-4. Which is great. You can get a cleaner tone if your want, or you can get growl.
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Everyone knows that I've championed the TonePump. When you look at what Stuart and PJ were trying to accomplish and do so with (to be honest) superior technology... it's a great solution that's 1/4 the cost of the solid-state USA circuit. So this is another reason why the Europe Series is such a great value. They've done everything they can to keep costs down.
Is it the same. No. Can you get it to also sound like the USA. Yes. But in the big picture of the full tonal qualities and range of the NS-2, does the Euro4LX match it's USA sibling. No.
There's a warmth and almost organic sound to the analog solid-state circuit in the NS-2. Which is why Stuart has never changed that circuit since it's creation in 1979. It IS the heart of the SPECTOR tone.
You can yank the circuit out of your Euro and put the USA 9v in it and it'll sound a lot more like a USA NS-2. But it still won't be 100% the same.
And this has to do with the wood quality. Pau Ferro is a superior wood to the Rosewood that's used on the Euro basses. Not that Indian Rosewood is bad at all. But Pau Ferro is warm. I love the sound of my NS-4. And body wood is the next issue.
Your buckeye and my water cured redwood basses are special in that the quality of the top wood when matched with the quality of the premium/flawless black walnut it's married to (if I could reverse the wood on my wings... the back side of my bass is beautiful. The walnut is gorgeous) makes the overall tonal quality of our NS-4 basses superior to the European woods being used in the Euro model's construction.
There's also the boat-anchor of a solid premium brass bridge and nut... not brass zinc... so you'll never get your Euro4LX to sound exactly like a USA NS-2. But you can get it really close.
I will be replacing the TonePump in my NS-2A fretless with a 9v USA Haz this year. And I'm also putting a USA (old style with no intonation screws) bridge on it. That should make my NS-2A sound pretty amazing as a fretless.
But I'm also very interested in the NS-4P. The NS-4 with the piezo bridge. For a fretless, which will be something I'll want to do probably next year... that piezo with the 18v USA circuit has to be wicked - beautiful sounding.
I will probably find out.
JeffplaysBass said:A Wilhelm Scream...the drummers uncle works with me.
I can't get enough of these guys! Their drummer is very talented also, watching these guys live is an awesome experience, even if you don't like the style of music. I've always felt that way about musicians, though. The only thing that could make them anymore awesome would be if he ditched that Stingray H and got a Spector!
Some Craigslist Spectors
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Nice refinish!
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Great deal on a Rebop 4 $400
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White NS-2A
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Nice refinish!
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Has anyone actually put an 18v USA circuit in a Euro? I know the 18v circuit only has 3 knobs but one of them is stacked so you would think there would be a way to split that into 4 knobs to fit the Euro. Or I could be way off and this might not even be possible without leaving an open hole on the Euro Just a thought since I would definitely look into doing that to mine if it were possible.
Just a thought since I would definitely look into doing that to mine if it were possible.
ah yes you're right...been schooled by LimaGuy!Performers were made in China.
Its a Q4, they have a Flat body.
Congrats and welcome
Great price by the way
Just curious are you in MD?
I think this may be the one they had mis-labeled a few days ago.
That's why I decided to have the OBP3 put into my Forte 5.
Has anyone actually put an 18v USA circuit in a Euro? I know the 18v circuit only has 3 knobs but one of them is stacked so you would think there would be a way to split that into 4 knobs to fit the Euro. Or I could be way off and this might not even be possible without leaving an open hole on the Euro
Nope. You can't. The knobs are part of a board like the one that goes into the USA NS-2.
You can't split out that pot.
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The OBP-3 really has me interested ever since Sam tried one out in a USA bolt-on. I think it will sound amazing in your Forte 5.That's why I decided to have the OBP3 put into my Forte 5.
Ah well, it was worth a shot. Thanks for the info JPS.
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