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SPECTOR® Club - Part 47

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LimaGuy said:
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That red is your color Sam!! Couldn't have more Joy in my heart for someone than I have for you today brother!!

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#682
JPSBassist said:
Stuart gave me the info on the finishes.
Basically the hand rubbed oil is just that. It's an oil. Designed to preserve the wood and prevent it from drying out. It doesn't really offer a lot in the way of protection.

The polyurethane finish is a polymer and does create a synthetic layer or coat of bonded atoms which penetrate the grain and protect the outer layers of the wood.

They look similar because they are both matte in nature. But they are not. The Poly coat is far better in the long run for your bass.

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As far as the tonal differences between those and the high gloss. The two matte finishes, hand rubbed oil and the poly coat... I would imagine that since neither really change the hardness of the wood then they'd sound pretty much the same.

The gloss poly coat, on the other hand, is a hardened polymerized synthetic shell that is harder than the wood it protects and therefore will affect the tone, making the high-end of the frequencies more apparent. Some call this "brighter" or "punchier". And you play a matte Spector next to a gloss finished model and you can hear a difference in the higher areas of the notes.

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For me, I choose the high-gloss finishes not because of their tonal properties, but because they offer the best protection for your bass long term. You can take a dent to a high-poly finish that would gouge the grain on a matte poly or oil finished model.

It's about protecting my investment to me.
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I personally like oiled finishes, here is a American Schecter that I had for 30 years, I probably rubbed it down twice in that time which means I spent less than an hour on this finish in 30 years.
Nothing like the feeling of wood and I believe oiled finishes would last several life times and the oil is not just oil I believe it has a sealer also like shellac mixed in.
This bass has probably 500 gigs and 100 hours of studio time on it and with the exception of where my right arm laid, the finish it is like new.
And if it gets dented you can steam the dents out provided the grain is not ruptured.

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#683
Since we had a big discussion on the Tone difference between Matte vs Gloss. Listen to the following clip then answer the survey below to to guess which was the Matte and which was the Gloss

Answers are confidential. It will be interesting how many of us can tell the difference.

One clip is the Woodstock Matte Forte-4 the other is the Woodstock Gloss NS-2. Both have 9v USA circuits in them.
Same Dunlop Steel strings, all bass and recording settings equal.

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#685
Mr.Bassie720 said:
I want to agree to disagree:smug: To ping or not to ping that is the question. My Forte is being refinished. Obviously I could choose the finish. In my humble experience the gloss finish "ping" can be heard unplugged. Plug the bass in and there is so much other stuff going on that you will not be able to hear it. In a matte poly finish the clear coat is not buffed to a mirror like shine. There is still clear coat there. Just not polished. I don't believe any of the colored mattes are actual oil finishes. I chose matte poly, though I reserve the right to change my mind and gloss that female dog!
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Gloss it and get inlays too....:D
 
#688
Mr.Bassie720 said:
Great info!



:D:D

I don't mean this in a malicious way, but I would challenge anyone here to take the blind Ping test. Everything else being equal, you would not be able to tell. I'd bet YOUR Spector on it.:D:D I'm kidding of course, but it would be next to impossible to discern a difference. Truth. I like em both.! Like I said, unplugged I can hear a slight difference. Lee and Lima have both. Do you guys notice a difference?
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Yes, If it doesn't have Gloss I am not interested...I rather have a Fender...j/k...:eek:
 
#689
JPSBassist said:
Stuart gave me the info on the finishes.
Basically the hand rubbed oil is just that. It's an oil. Designed to preserve the wood and prevent it from drying out. It doesn't really offer a lot in the way of protection.

The polyurethane finish is a polymer and does create a synthetic layer or coat of bonded atoms which penetrate the grain and protect the outer layers of the wood.

They look similar because they are both matte in nature. But they are not. The Poly coat is far better in the long run for your bass.

---------------
As far as the tonal differences between those and the high gloss. The two matte finishes, hand rubbed oil and the poly coat... I would imagine that since neither really change the hardness of the wood then they'd sound pretty much the same.

The gloss poly coat, on the other hand, is a hardened polymerized synthetic shell that is harder than the wood it protects and therefore will affect the tone, making the high-end of the frequencies more apparent. Some call this "brighter" or "punchier". And you play a matte Spector next to a gloss finished model and you can hear a difference in the higher areas of the notes.

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For me, I choose the high-gloss finishes not because of their tonal properties, but because they offer the best protection for your bass long term. You can take a dent to a high-poly finish that would gouge the grain on a matte poly or oil finished model.

It's about protecting my investment to me.
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+1...:bassist::bassist::bassist:
 
#690
worshiprocker said:
difference in the matte vs gloss maybe not... but oil vs gloss... even my drummer could tell the difference. I actually here more "ping" on the refin CRFM than the stock one too.. not a lot, but I notice... that is why that bass resides with someone new :eek:
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When I brought the oil finish to practice the guitarist told me "that bass sucks compared to the other ones"...I never brought it back....:crying:
 
#691
seventhframe said:
Well, I am thrilled to share the news with everyone:
This morning I woke up to a number of good news e-mails one of which will be shared by someone else later on but the best news for me was:

As of this morning I am officially endorsed by Spector Basses!! I've been in a state of awe and haven't been able to verbalize things properly until now (maybe still a bit impaired).
So for now, I'd like to thank PJ Rubal for accepting me to the great family of Spector and very importantly, I want to thank Sam for kicking my @$$ and giving me the confidence to get this going!
This is definitely an incredible landmark in my life and I am thrilled and honoured to be a part of such a great group of people.

So, thank you PJ for accepting me into the family, Sam for the support and Stuart for creating the most incredible, most transcending basses in the world!
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Excellent0!!!...now you can let me borrow $10,000.......j/k...:bassist::bassist::bassist:
 
#693
anton72 said:
Just been at Nickelback gig here in Moscow. Mike Kroeger was rotating 3 Spectors during the show. I must admit his signature passive M5 does not cut through... The active NS-5XL he was also playing did it miles better. And the vocalist would better not talk between songs, he's much better with singing than talking)))
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Ohh you don't like his Portuguese accent??...:eyebrow:
 
#696
smadder said:
I was being sarcastic Jeff. I just don't think about Spectors as drastically as you do as far as what models have what to offer. I personally think the Euros (yes, even the non-all-maple-LX series) have an incredible tone signature to offer and when combined with a US 18 or 9v circuit (depending on whether you've got PJs or humbuckers) you really have almost all of the original Spector USA tone right there, but you can save a little money and a little weight.

Just my opinion, and I apologize if my sarcasm was insulting or inappropriate. You just seemed very quickly dismissive of all Spectors but high-gloss custom US models of which very few of us can afford to own used or new.
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No need to apologize...and for the record I just traded a US Spector for a Euro so I do love Euro's too. And some LX's kick A$$ (Grendles' and a few others I have owned for example) and some not so much...So Rock On!!!!:bassist::bassist::bassist:
 
#697
bunkaroo said:
You know I don't know why I didn't remember you were around here or notice your location or I would have let you know when we played last month.

The band is called Divinity Compromised. Have a fairly small Facebook footprint at the moment - page hasn't been updated in a while. Basically been in a dormant state for the last year so getting the record ready. Our singer has pretty decent contacts so I expect us to have some national openers early next year when we start promoting the record.

I'm dying to post clips and artwork but we haven't paid for the artwork or done all the legal stuff with the music yet so I better not. :) Hoping to have the digital release out next month. We'll probably hold back the physical release until after New Year's.
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Nice Name!!! ;)
 
#698
LimaGuy said:
As some of you know or may have figured out already I have purchased NS-2 #800 that was recently shown at BPL. It has arrived today one day earlier then expected.

The bass is just more stunning and amazing in person. As those who know me I am not posting this as a “Look what I got” type post but rather just looking to share the excitement of being given the opportunity to be the owner of this amazing work of art designed by Stuart. For those who feel they may never own a USA made Spector, you may and you will one day. Just 2 years ago, I didn’t think I would be alive 2 years later to have such a special day in my life. Before I got my Forte last year I would never imagine owning even one USA Spector.
Of course owning this bass did come with selling my cherry Euro and some other personal items, no family vacation, some unneeded credit card debt and barrowing some money from a friend. But when everyday of your life is a gift and a 2nd chance…. it is all worth it.
I have named the Bass “The Pulse” as it is resembles a strong heart and pulse that playing Spectors has given me the opportunity to have again.

I am still in shock and will be posting some sound clips soon. As expected, it sounds incredible. As far as the neck, It is not as thick front to back and not as flat as the Forte, but it is thicker then the Kramer NS-2 but not as round. So it’s almost a perfect mix of both.
I did venture out to find the UPS driver and actually followed him around to a few of his major store stops since his truck had 388 boxes on it this morning. But after his 5th big store delivery, I saw that Spector box and he was able to grab it out for me. I will be buying him a coffee gift card this week.

P.S. I have officially knighted newly endorsed Spector Artist Seventhframe “Omer” as Pimp Jr. as he was the one who kept talking me into doing this. He calls it payback. lol


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Most awesome. Lots of good news around here lately. :bassist:
 
#699
Someone say Grendle? Lol. Haven't been around in a bit, life has thrown me a few curve balls, but things are going well. :).

Congrats on a sweet bass Sam. Living the dream!

Hey Jeff, I'm planning on being in CT over Thanksgiving. Maybe we can hook up. Gotta see how it goes.

Some sick basses flying around here lately! Congrats to all!

Congrats as well to the new Spector artists! Check the box in life for that one!
 
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